Soldato
Is it actually law? Or is it just not the done thing?
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Is it actually law? Or is it just not the done thing?
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[TW]Fox;21056118 said:
You can do less co-ordination outside the ship than you can do inside. Once people reach the outside of the ship they are almost safe, it needs very little co-ordination, the 2nd in command could have handled it on his own. Inside the ship is where the captain is needed, there were hundreds if not thousands of passengers in there along with staff and getting them all out safely needs a chain of command to order staff around, to inturn order the passengers the right way to get off.
Plus how the hell can he co-ordinate anything if he is complaining that he can't see... He(as far as we know) was the reason the ship crashed, he then abandoned his post to save himself. He should be tried with the manslaughter of everybody that died in the incident.
Soldato
to me from the coastguard call, it sounds like the captain is making excuses and just generally being a complete faggot about what he is being told to do.
Poor form, Poor form.
Poor form, Poor form.
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Please remember that at this point the ship is on its side. You cannot walk down corridors. You must walk and climb along walls. There is no safe place to stand. There is no safe place to do anything let alone co-ordinate the evacuatio of people from a ship that size. I doubt its easy to make it from one room to the next let alone the entire length of the ship.
Thats exactly what he is being tried with.
Don
That's just not how it works Fox, as long as their was passengers waiting to disembark off the side of the ship he should have been there coordinating it. The only thing that'll save his neck is if they can show that ship procedures were for the Master to set up an alternative emergency control point in a lifeboat (there won't be). There's a massive difference between getting off the boat thinking your last even though there are people left and getting off the boat knowing there are hundreds still left.[TW]Fox;21056306 said:
Soldato
Wouldnt they have to prove that he knew there were still people on board in that case?
If there was no power on the ship, did he have any communication with the crew on the passenger decks?
You can clearly see in the videos that there are still passengers climbing off the side of the ship but is there any way he could have seen that whilst he was still inside?
Didnt the evacuation take 90 mins as opposed to the 30 mins that it should take, could he have known that it was taking so long?
I agree that it seems he has made some big mistakes, but i dont think it's fair to jump to conclusions until we know exactly what happened.
Don
The Coastgaurd were telling him there was still dozens of people on the boat and to get back on board to take charge!
Soldato
Regardless of what happened the captain will get nailed thanks to the company's damage limiting excercise
Soldato
So you think the company are setting him up ?
Regardless of what happened after it hit the rocks, the simple fact is, the ship should not have been that close to the island. One man was in charge the captain. Therefore the captains fault whichever way you look at it.
Anything that happened after the collision is his fault aswell due to negligence or sheer idiocy.
Anyone see Newsnight? They showed routes that the same ship took months before and apparently it followed a very similar route and actually got a fair bit closer to land.
I don't think they are setting him up exactly, but maybe hanging him out to dry, though form the transcripts it doesn't sound great for him.
Soldato
i know that in august the did a kind of fly past (or the sailing equivilant) for the carnival which was pre arranged with the company, and probably had a harbormaster on board (i can only imagine this)
He shouldn't have been there that day, there's nobody else to blame, unless it comes out that the company agreed he could go there !
Just saw the transcript of the phone call between the captain and the coast guard guy this morning. Its pretty conclusive evidence that the captain is guilty of cowardice and abandoning his post during an emergency. I hope they throw the book at him.
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Can't believe the Captain jumped ship. Fair enough, everyone would be scared in that situation but you need to have responsibility in such an important job..such a selfish coward.
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I can almost understand him jumping ship so he could better co-ordinate the safety effort however it seems as though he made his way to the closest port and hailed a taxi! If true it doesn't look good.
Soldato
I wonder how many "system" on the ship would still be working, surely emergency lights/communications would be waterproof and run on batteries.
From the video on the web though it seems as if there were no lights at all, maybe there "thermal" images.
HEADRAT
From the video on the web though it seems as if there were no lights at all, maybe there "thermal" images.
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