Soldato
inglese?
Almost Titanic 2
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Sorry, but this is the original conversation...anyway you can understand the way that the coastguard is speaking to the captain, very angry. Coastguard continuing to order him to go back on the ship and captain anwer that he can't.
What ship and where?
They manage to “park” them quite close to the coast as well. This one is in the channel between the island of Lokrum and the coast just southeast of Dubrovnik:
Liberty of the seas. That was at villefranche sur mer
Soldato
They dont need to, the ship will tender in to small ports.
The ship stops way out from the port, and then you board small boats to take you to port.
This was taken from the small tender boat, about halfway between the ship and port, so you can see how far out is stops:
i've never seen it done that way before, at least in all the islands i've been do they drive up to the docks and people walk off on gangways.
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What ship and where?
They manage to “park” them quite close to the coast as well. This one is in the channel between the island of Lokrum and the coast just southeast of Dubrovnik:
The "Channel" here is a continuation of the landmass = plenty a water
they probably have a "Real" skipper on board not someone hired from Central Casting in Hollywood.
It depends on the size of the ship
most ports ive been to they have docked but at some ports they tender
Recording between captain and coastguard (translated), pretty shocking stuff. As he said in an interview later that he was the last to leave the ship....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16597277
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16597277
Soldato
Francesco Schettino is going to prison
Looks that way, it's simple. The captain is either last off, or goes down with it. That tradition has never changed, and the law that resides with it shall be executed in this instance.
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I have mixed thoughts reading that. Some of is it really odd. He seems to be trying to explain whats happening but the Coastguard just keeps repeating the same thing over and over again. And this is just plain weird:
Just... bizarre. He constantly explained that he couldnt currently access the ladder he was being told to because there was another lifeboat there.
I doubt the 'law' states the Captain 'goes down with it'.
How could you ever be sure to be the last off anyway? 11 people are dead and therefore never got off so when do you decide you are the last and its safe to leave on a ship of that size?!
Don
The Master is in charge of the ship and any evacuation, he is responsible for coordinating the rescue, dealing with casualities and ensuring as far as possible that all the passengers are safely off. By abandoning his post, it's the Coastguard that is telling him how many fatalities there is. It's what he should be telling the Coastguard, not the other way round.[TW]Fox;21056033 said:
I know that.
I'm questioning how it would ever be possible to be 'last off' whilst being sure you really were 'last off'. Perhaps he thought he was better to be co-ordinating the rescue from off the ship? Just how much coordination can you do on a ship thats listing that badly and has zero power?!
The Coastguard didnt know how many fatalities there were either. Infact nobdoy does yet. Just seems to have been one big night of choas which we are now free to speculate and criticise about from our warm rooms..
Soldato
They've found 5 more bodies, i don't think they'll find them all.
Well atleast not until the ship is upright again and floating.
Plus there is a good chance one or two got swept out to sea and drown because there are reports of people jumping off the ship.
Well atleast not until the ship is upright again and floating.
Plus there is a good chance one or two got swept out to sea and drown because there are reports of people jumping off the ship.
Of course they aren't expected to go down with the ship if they can escape, but equally they can't abandon the ship while there is a reasonable chance that people are still on board.
He has actually been charged with the specific offence of abandoning ship.
He has actually been charged with the specific offence of abandoning ship.
Soldato
From the limited information we have so far it doesn't look a very good show on the Captain's part. No doubt the operator or insurance company will try and solely blame him!
One other thing I thought when watching the news was that they showed infra-red helicopter recordings. Whilst it’s good for the records to have a recording of what happened, wouldn’t the helicopter have been more use winching people off? Or instead of using a fancy infra-red camera (like National Geographic do so the wild animals can’t see the light) wouldn’t shining a gurt big floodlight have helped the passengers on the side of the boat see what they’re doing?
- Driving too close to the rocks.
- Driving too fast.
- Turning sharply when you've got a load of water sloshing around in the hull and the stabilizers are dead.
- Announcing to the passengers that it's a minor technical problem whilst giving a coded message to crew that you're taking on water.
- Not having yet done the emergency drill so when you finally blow the whistle seven times to abandon ship anyone who hasn’t been on a Cruise doesn’t know what it means.
- Taking ages to decide to abandon ship, so long that then some of the lifeboats couldn't be launched as the lean angle is too great.
- Being the first off not the last. Not coordinating the evacuation and saying there were only 40 passengers on board.
One other thing I thought when watching the news was that they showed infra-red helicopter recordings. Whilst it’s good for the records to have a recording of what happened, wouldn’t the helicopter have been more use winching people off? Or instead of using a fancy infra-red camera (like National Geographic do so the wild animals can’t see the light) wouldn’t shining a gurt big floodlight have helped the passengers on the side of the boat see what they’re doing?
Yes, charged. Not convicted. We don't know yet. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
Another trial by media I fear.
He doesnt sound like the most sterling example of a Captain ever to sail the seals by any stretch of the imagination but the more hysteria this digs up the less likely it is that there will be a fair trial.
Another trial by media I fear.
He doesnt sound like the most sterling example of a Captain ever to sail the seals by any stretch of the imagination but the more hysteria this digs up the less likely it is that there will be a fair trial.