am i going to kill myself?

William said:
I think I would rather have a mortage. :p

Same! £350 would go a long way towards a mortgage every month, and at the end of the day you'd OWN a house as opposed to having the privilage of hitting 60 in over 9 seconds just for a year ;)
 
Serj said:
Same! £350 would go a long way towards a mortgage every month, and at the end of the day you'd OWN a house as opposed to having the privilage of hitting 60 in over 9 seconds just for a year ;)

I can get the 9 seconds in my mondeo. I got Zetec. ;)
 
One day you will think "Did I really spend all that money on insurance". I know I did and I didn't spend half as much as you for a quicker car :D I think at 17 it does sometimes make sense to take the insurance hit. I mean you can pay £1500-2000 on a 1.1 fiesta but I am sure there are much more sensable cars than a scoob out there.

If I was you, I would really consider the other options. Find out how much you can afford and put a thread up asking what else you could get for the money. If you still have your heart set on the turbo then go for it and enjoy it :) Just be prepared for it to cost you, a lot.
 
Ah my envy has been tamed, thought you were driving the uber subaru. Props for being insured on the subaru even though its a lot of money. Still I'm sure you could get that kind of horsepower cheaper, but I guess thats not the point since its a subaru.
 
Sone said:
Rover 220 turbo?, very nice one of the few rovers to be proud of ;)

Years ago my dad used to have a J reg 220 Turbo. Went like stink, I was only about 10 or 12 and I remember being in it overtaking a convoy of 9 cars and a bus. Happy days.
 
digitalwolf said:
I plan to chop my Saxo in after 2 years and get a C2 VTS.

Sloppy handling, not much quicker than a Saxo VTR, horrible looks - I wouldn't bother get a Clio Sport or something.
 
rG-tom said:
your point = void when imprezas only redeeming point is their speed. The interior etc is awful....so take away the turbo and you're left with a car with an engine that wouldnt have much power to start with if it was fwd...then add in the transmission losses of 4WD and you've got aprox FAbhp at the wheels.....in a car with a crap interior, that you have to pay a stupid amount of insurance on and not have the performance to collerate with that insurance, and pay over the odds to buy because of the "image".

That is all IMO of course, so no disrespect to any owners, i'm just putting forward why i think the "fake" tag of the scooby is better earned than the "fake" tag of the saxo vtr etc.

Tom.

You clearly know very little about the Impreza...or indeed many other cars I suspect given your blinkered response. Their only redeeming point is their speed aye? So the brilliant all weather grip, well documented mechanical reliability, practicality and great sound are what? Scotch mist?? What a crock. The Impreza has its faults no doubt about it but don't be fooled into thinking it also has no talent because be assured, it does.

Regarding the output of the 2 litre n/a - the latest incarnation has about 148bhp unless I'm mistaken - care to tell me how that translates into 'an engine that wouldnt have much power to start with if it was fwd'? A statement which, incidentally, doesn't even make sense! 150 brake from a 2 litre is still a decent output these days and the fact that it has OMG 4wd powah sapping transmission doesn't seem to dent its real world performance that much given that a lot of 2 litre FWD cars are still getting to 60 in the 9's. Make no mistake the 2 litre n/a Impreza can hold its own in the right hands.

Interior isn't great but really the contact points are all that truly matter and they're acceptable in the turbo. And anyway at least they feel like they'll stand the test of time unlike a fair proportion of French superminis with their legendary 'comes off in the hand' build quality. The ergonomics aren't great in an impreza but the build quality is sound imho.

As much as I agree I wouldn't be stumping up the sort of money this guy has mentioned in order to run an Impreza, there are a lot of other posters in here who spend imho ludicrous amounts of money on tarty bits and brand new cars but...as with everything in life, thats their choice and their prerogative. Buying a 400 quid graphics card seems utterly ludicrous to me these days but this place wouldn't be here unless there were people who thought different. The problem is that you are applying your 'logic' to someone elses purchase decision & also trying to have a go at what is a very accomplished car when you clearly don't have a lot of insight into the subject matter.

:)
 
Good luck with getting a turbo'd impreza fella, one of those is on my wish list...a white jap wrx 2 door mmmmmmmmmmmmmm :cool:

But I feel that my next motor (currently got a pug 106 gti) will be something a little more sensible, say a civic type r. This is because insurance is crazy, I'm insured for about 700 quid fully comp, and it costs me and my gf (on her mini cooper s) just over £900 fully comp. But companies want 2 grand for me to insure an import impreza! Not fair considering mine is group 13, the mini is 15 and the impreza is 17.

But if that is your poison I say go for it! The boxer sound is close to my heart.
Almost as good as the whine of the supercharger on the mini!

I'm 22 btw.
 
s-man said:
Regarding the output of the 2 litre n/a - the latest incarnation has about 148bhp unless I'm mistaken - care to tell me how that translates into 'an engine that wouldnt have much power to start with if it was fwd'? A statement which, incidentally, doesn't even make sense! 150 brake from a 2 litre is still a decent output these days

Yes, it is, but this is the current shape Impreza and this thread is not dealing with current shape Imprezas in any shape or form. It is dealing with the original 1993-2000 Impreza Sport, which was 114bhp rising to 123bhp for the later models.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Yes, it is, but this is the current shape Impreza and this thread is not dealing with current shape Imprezas in any shape or form. It is dealing with the original 1993-2000 Impreza Sport, which was 114bhp rising to 123bhp for the later models.

The clue was in the use of the phrase 'recent incarnation' Fox - I'm aware that's not the model being discussed here but then we are also veering between the tubo and non-turbo models so by way of background to my rebuttal of his ludicrous assertion that the 2 litre n/a Subaru unit is woefully underpowered I offered additional information in order to provide greater context.

Anyway my point still stands: apart from the usual high specific output suspects like Honda v-tecs etc that sort of power (125 ish) bhp is completely 'normal' for a 2 litre to produce so wheres the beef?
 
s-man said:
Anyway my point still stands: apart from the usual high specific output suspects like Honda v-tecs etc that sort of power (125 ish) bhp is completely 'normal' for a 2 litre to produce so wheres the beef?

114-125bhp is not completely normal for a 2 litre engine to produce. 2 litre engines are, normally, in the 130-150bhp range. That sort of power is what you'd expect from a 1.6 or a 1.8 litre engine. The only other 2 litre engine I can think of with a power output that poor is the 2.0 8v in various Golfs etc.

It was completely normal 15 years ago, perhaps..
 
[TW]Fox said:
114-125bhp is not completely normal for a 2 litre engine to produce. 2 litre engines are, normally, in the 130-150bhp range. That sort of power is what you'd expect from a 1.6 or a 1.8 litre engine. The only other 2 litre engine I can think of with a power output that poor is the 2.0 8v in various Golfs etc.

It was completely normal 15 years ago, perhaps..

By your own admission the Impreza version we are referring to ran from 1993-2000 and therefore the earliest ones are 13 years old...not that far off 15 years is it?
 
Just don't do it. not because you'll kill yourself but because you're mad to pay that much for insurance! :eek: I thought I was bad with my first year at £1600! :o

Seriously that figure is shocking...

I've driven a mildly tuned WRX and it didn't really do that much for me, take away the power and I don't know HOW you've justified paying that much insurance on a Sport! :eek:
 
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