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AM4 B350/X370 black screen crash thread

Didn't make a list that of changes today.

Well, i did, but software-wise is limited.

Hardware :
removed water cooled 980ti and replaced with air cooled 1080ti.

Removed all water cooling for cpu and replaced with cryorig r1.

Oh, also plugged in the 4 pin cpu power - just because. Don't expect it to achieve anything.

Bios :

Upped the soc voltage ever so slightly as was noticing that slight pause again during disk access, which did appear to help

Software :
Reinstalled chipset drivers as first attempt at fixing pausing. Did set power plan to high performance.

Installed palit 'thundermaster' as oc alternative to afterburner.

Installed couple of games.

Have tried :
First reloaded saved bios settings that were defo passing (with afterburner disabled to prevent black screen). Didn't help.

Tried upping various voltages. Didn't work.

Closed thundermaster, still black screen.

Uninstalled afterburner, thundermaster, and hwinfo64. Seems to not have black screened, but didn't pass an hour of occt either!

Wtf?

Changing what I did shouldn't affect the cpu. OK, temps are higher than water but still only hitting low to mid 70s.

This system.... It's beyond comprehension.

I wonder if you are the very edge of stability regarding your CPU overclock...
 
For hard lock black screen crash, perhaps.

Not for display simply cutting out crash. This one seems to be application /Windows related.
 
Try setting pcie gen3 manually instead of auto?

Has been set for ages.

Right now trying to re-fix hard lock black screen. Which should hopefully be easier.

Then will see if thundermaster causes same display cut-out as afterburner - if so, if I want to avoid those (which may only come up in occt), then I will possibly have to just leave overclocking GPU.
 
If i had known this setup was that bloody quirky that I'd have to start all over again after changing cooling, I wouldn't have bothered.

Its just so god damned erratic and I am coming to hate it.
 
I simply reset to defaults, manually entered exactly what was in before, and it seems to be stable again - for now.

erratic. fickle. infuriating!

Now I can re-install Thundermaster (what a horrible name) and see if gives me display cut-outs again.
 
So, different things that have caused blackouts on system thus far.

Hard lock:
Voltage (sometimes too much rather than too little )
Pressure from cooler mounting (today's problem it seems)
Bad ram

Display cuts out (system still runs) :
Soc voltage
Afterburner/thundermaster oc/monitoring (when under load)
Nvidia drivers (opencl, when under load)

So, fingers crossed figured out why it was giving me crap today, for both kinds of black screen

Reseated cooler, being sure to only tighten until cooler felt secure rather than how much it would allow.

And on the oc software, increasing the polling time may have actually solved the display cut out under load.

I hope this sticks this time!
 
Ergh, no, not having any luck.

Since changing to this air cooler getting code 8 under load. Time seems to vary wildly on how long before I hit it.

3.95ghz used to be a doddle, and 4ghz not particularly difficult either.

Now am struggling with 3.925ghz, and always getting code 8 hard black screen lock up.

Changing the ******* cooler shouldn't affect oc to this degree. Temps are still really reasonable - while it's running.

I just don't ******* get it.

Google searching, code 8 seems to affect most people at boot, not under load.

Wanted to move back to air for simplicity and because water just seemed like overkill considering temps I was getting.
 
I know you've already passed stress tests before at 3.9. Try backing down to 3.8.
Reason I say this is mine was at 3.9 for weeks, then for no apparent reason didn't like 3.9 anymore and I had to dial it back.

Yeah, I'm reading about some kind of thermal wall on Ryzen over on oc.net currently. Not sure it makes sense in my head, but I take nothing for granted with this system now.

I may get an AIO - one thing I don't like about this cryorig r1 is that it pulls the cpu from the socket and there's no way to avoid it.

Already bent couple pins once!
 
Apparently, according to a few (and one who seems fairly clued up), once you hit a certain thermal limit (they reckon around 68 or so degrees), the voltage requirements shoot up.

So, e.g. If you on water like I was and you stuck 1.42/1.44v in for 4ghz, I could get away with it cause my temps didn't go over 65.

Now that I am on air, I pass that limit earlier - currently testing 3.9ghz at 1.33v, and that is getting me to the same temps roughly as my 4ghz above.

Going over that, takes me over that thermal limit, and I start requiring more voltage than I did under water.

So 3.925ghz would be easily doable at 1.37v before, now it's only very nearly stable at 1.395v.

3.95ghz will probably take me more voltage than 4ghz did under water.

Not sure how correct all this is. Could explain my current woes though. I thought I would simply experience slightly higher temps. Didn't think the voltage requirements would shoot up.

Pain in the ass system :/
 
Apparently, according to a few (and one who seems fairly clued up), once you hit a certain thermal limit (they reckon around 68 or so degrees), the voltage requirements shoot up.

So, e.g. If you on water like I was and you stuck 1.42/1.44v in for 4ghz, I could get away with it cause my temps didn't go over 65.

Now that I am on air, I pass that limit earlier - currently testing 3.9ghz at 1.33v, and that is getting me to the same temps roughly as my 4ghz above.

Going over that, takes me over that thermal limit, and I start requiring more voltage than I did under water.

So 3.925ghz would be easily doable at 1.37v before, now it's only very nearly stable at 1.395v.

3.95ghz will probably take me more voltage than 4ghz did under water.

Not sure how correct all this is. Could explain my current woes though. I thought I would simply experience slightly higher temps. Didn't think the voltage requirements would shoot up.

Pain in the ass system :/

That could explain my cpu refusing to work at 3.9 anymore. I changed the fan profile on my Corsair aio to minimum a while back just because of the noise. Cannot remember if this was around the same time as this happened but it could well be the reason...

If it is true then it's crap. I'd be interested in seeing people's results regarding this.
 
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