Soldato
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Quite a few people die from doing lots of K and then running a bath, not being able to get up and slipping under the water.
Amazing sotry of near-death experience
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Quite a few people die from doing lots of K and then running a bath, not being able to get up and slipping under the water.
But your guessing, you have no idea if the beings are able to control our actions or even what the purpose of our existence is at all. If you believe in the big bang then you will see that the universe is quite a random place and not under direct control.
However, all suffering and pain exists for a reason, and that reason is because as humans we are conscious with emotional attachment and pain reception. In a world void of emotion and feeling there would be simply actions, just actions. All consequence would be unmeasurable and have no meaning. People dying would be as insignificant as one rock witnessing another rock being ground up. We would be no more than a bag of tissue and bone, a complex array of elements on the periodic table. Suerly that would be the sensless and meaningless existence you speak of?
Our capacity to feel pain is what also allows us to feel love, joy, excitement etc. So our growth as an intelligent species would be completely stunted if we could not feel the full range of emotions and our actions would actually be far more wreckless if we were unable to.
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Soldato
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Yes, I go through a lot of tin foil here...
Didn't anyone see that guy who had a hand operation without any anaesthetic? The mind is a brilliant tool. But to say we exist after the mind is starved of oxygen.... we'll all know the answer to that eventually.
Also 4 pages in and no one has asked what a sotry is?
Also 4 pages in and no one has asked what a sotry is?
I think the idea that makes most sense when it comes to this issue is that of the freedom of choice and how people have to learn and evolve on their own but hey the universe is probably all just chance happenings running under some oddly convenient physics for things like life and brains to be conscious, right?
Well i'm not arguing with that. Of course we need the capacity for the full gamut of experiences to appreciate them. I'm talking about the systemic inhumanity to other human beings that to me seems the norm nowadays. I'm not a history professor so dont quote me on this but do you really think that humans as a species are becoming more advanced and evolved to a higher state of knowledge and wisdom?
By all means let your kid go out and play and learn but dont let him burn the house down... or do you?
At what point does the "higher being"
D)think... hrmmm whats the kid doing now? ahh hes building a wee camp fire bless im.. (looks in 5 minutes later) ohh the fire is a wee bit bigger watch you dinae burn yourself son but you'll learn ehh and thats the whole point.
(returns 5 minutes later) house is blazing merrily away, majority of family trapped inside screaming and the kid is running around waving a burning brand and whooping like an indian....
whoops..
Aye that was me, I've accepted your request.
Nobody is asking people like you to jump through hoops for OcUK or to become a form of entertainment on television. People in this thread keep spamming the $1 million site, which is the first place I'd go if I had any of these "abilities" as it'd be easy money that I sure could spend.
The thing which bugs me about life after death, is why do people think they're so important that there is some kind of fancy heaven waiting for us all.
What makes people think that they matter to the extent that there is eternal paradise waiting for us when we go..
Whats wrong with going back to how you were before you were born <absolute zerio> ? whats so terrible about that
Never understood the concept of afterlife, other than something we can think of to comfort us when thinking of death or relatives long gone.
This is EXACTLY what i think, pretty much word for word
True, but most of the people who have the ability of telekinesis are highly spiritual and don't have an interest in sideshows, TV programs or making loads of money. They just don't care about it, just as you don't care about crocheting or basket weaving. It's not in their field of interest and there are better things to concern yourself with than finance. However, for a lot of Western people, not exploiting such an ability is as crazy as the idea that it can exist.
Riiight, they're so "spiritual" that they refuse to let other people study them for the betterment of everyone, selfish *****.
This is an interesting subject in it's self. There is a large body of evidence to show that it is only in the last 4,000 years that we became such a destructive species. People imagine going back that humans were a lot more barbaric and uncivilized but there is strong evidence to show that this is not true. War between tribes was rare and killing people in your own community was even rarer.
Back in time it seems we were a lot more in tune with nature and each other, we were more instinctive animals and didn't have such a sense of self. Our communities were rather like the other monkey species on the planet, males would maybe wrestle or fight for mating or leadership rights but killing was rare.
Eventually though came the dawn of self realization. A greater understanding of our selves and the world also brought a new fear of death. To escape death people tried to gain power and possessions as a means to try and transcend it, the dawn of the ego was upon us. This lust for power, control and possession eventually turned into war. Human war more than anything then shaped the planet to where we are today.
So yes our move away from nature to a one of self realization and knowledge has definitely been a double edged sword.
Sorry to be so off topic....
Is there? As I understand it, there is a large body of evidence to show that we know ****** all about the social habits of our pre-4k BC ancestors.
What we do know is that they were compelled to spend most of their time and energy just trying to stay alive, so any violence outside this remit would have been an unaffordable luxury for most.
Not being funny but I just don't buy that at all.
If you were so immaterial you wouldn't be paying for an internet connection so that you can talk on here, on a computer that probably cost quite a lot. No, I am not buying it. Unless you were the type of spiritual person who lives like a hermit/monk then I think you would prove it for $1 million.
With regard to myself, I'm only talking about divination, not telekenisis - I have no telekinetic abilities. In divination, you can cause a physical object to swing/move/rotate/whatever purely by touching or holding it. I've done this in front of people before and they thought I was faking it. So what use would a video be? Maybe - maybe I could go on national television and make some cash out of this but I'm not going to make a spectacle of myself. That's just embarassing.
Lysander, why do you do this to yourself? Why do you want to make yourself look like an absolute, deluded poor soul, consciously sprouting forth such lies and nonsense? Is it that if you repeat something to yourself so many times, it somehow becomes true? At first, I was joking when I said 'go book yourself into a psychiatric ward', but now I am convinced you may have some deeper issues at hand that may need professional advice. I strongly recommend you visit your GP, and get yourself checked out. I am not joking. Please, just read your own posts mate. It's not us that needs convincing, it's you.