AMD Bulldozer Finally!

davieg · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:05

paradisiac said:
lol ok, thought a dual would be a bit of a waste.
will they be doing BE versions do we know. i know nothing is certain and is all speculation.

Yeah theres a BE, even says so on the tin

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:10

paradisiac said:
so budget builds (internet/office/media) will be dual/tri, average gamer will be quad/hex and enthusiats will be octo/higher octo?

Each module is equivalent to two cores with shared resources. The two module Bulldozer will be priced higher than £100. Bulldozer is postioned against the Core i5 and Core i7.

Llano is positioned against the Core i3,Pentium and Celeron processors.

clocka · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:11

all processors should come in tins

I wonder what the default heatsink will be like for AM3+, anyone seen a photo?

Martini1991 · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:14

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Each module is equivalent to two cores with shared resources. The two module Bulldozer will be priced higher than £100. Bulldozer is postioned against the Core i5 and Core i7.

Llano is positioned against the Core i3,Pentium and Celeron processors.

But as a CPU it performs way worse than an i3 2100.

paradisiac · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:14

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Each module is equivalent to two cores with shared resources. The two module Bulldozer will be priced higher than £100. Bulldozer is postioned against the Core i5 and Core i7.

Llano is positioned against the Core i3,Pentium and Celeron processors.

so BD will be enthusiast/business chips and Llano will be budget rigs and occassional gamer rigs?

do we know what range of onboard gfx the chips might have?

Martini1991 · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:14

clocka said:
all processors should come in tins

I wonder what the default heatsink will be like for AM3+, anyone seen a photo?

Same one they use now as a guess.

paradisiac · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:14

Martini1991 said:
But as a CPU it performs way worse than an i3 2100.

you know this how?? you have one that no one else has had access too?

Martini1991 · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:19

paradisiac said:
you know this how?? you have one that no one else has had access too?

The highest end (at present) Llano is basically an Athlon II 635 with a 5570, but unless you use like 2133MHZ RAM, will perform worse than a 5570.
Given PII's get beaten to death by the 2100, stipulating Llano will follow through.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4448/amd-llano-desktop-performance-preview/2

DragonQ · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:20

paradisiac said:
so budget builds (internet/office/media) will be dual/tri, average gamer will be quad/hex and enthusiats will be octo/higher octo?

I highly doubt there will be tri-cores when the cores come in pairs. Disabling half a module is almost certainly impossible.

gurusan · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:30

paradisiac said:
you know this how?? you have one that no one else has had access too?

There have been a lot of Llano benchmarks recently which show that it's about as fast as an Athlon II clock for clock. Where it excels is the GPU performance and power efficiency which makes it an ideal choice for mobiles and just cheap workstations.

paradisiac · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:32

gurusan said:
There have been a lot of Llano benchmarks recently which show that it's about as fast as an Athlon II clock for clock. Where it excels is the GPU performance and power efficiency which makes it an ideal choice for mobiles and just cheap workstations.

but can we guarantee no tweaking will be done before release?

gurusan · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:37

Honestly it's just not possible to improve the IPC to compete with SB in the CPU department. Llano is about as fast as it's going to be.

paradisiac · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:38

i thought the Llano was competing against the pentium versions of SB though, which from my thread regarding the G620, is a pretty poor cpu.

Martini1991 · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:46

paradisiac said:
i thought the Llano was competing against the pentium versions of SB though, which from my thread regarding the G620, is a pretty poor cpu.

The pentiums are cheaper than Llano.
The core 2100 is cheaper than Llano.

paradisiac · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:47

Martini1991 said:
The pentiums are cheaper than Llano.
The core 2100 is cheaper than Llano.

and AMD have 100% confirmed the price these chips are coming out at, or is this again, just speculation?

Martini1991 · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:49

paradisiac said:
and AMD have 100% confirmed the price these chips are coming out at, or is this again, just speculation?

I know the price, as do many people, we've seen legit listings, pre-orders were taken on Friday.

gurusan · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:49

They have been already posted for sale at many sites...

paradisiac · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:51

dont pre-order games, not start at like £40+ but on launch a lot of stores will do them for £30+? i would never guage on a pre-order price on an item that has no official release date, maybe thats just me.

DragonQ · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:55

gurusan said:
There have been a lot of Llano benchmarks recently which show that it's about as fast as an Athlon II clock for clock.

Makes sense since that's exactly what it is (the CPU part anyway).

Martini1991 · 18 Jun 2011 at 21:59

paradisiac said:
dont pre-order games, not start at like £40+ but on launch a lot of stores will do them for £30+? i would never guage on a pre-order price on an item that has no official release date, maybe thats just me.

They're due, price isn't going to change much lol.