I remember reading on here though that some am3 may support bulldozer with a bios update? Is this not a possibility?
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AMD Bulldozer Finally!
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I remember reading on here though that some am3 may support bulldozer with a bios update? Is this not a possibility?
Soldato
Your facts are wrong because my point was nothing about Sandybridge which your now drumming about in response.
I have AMD motherboard & the cheapest optional is to drop a AMD hexcore & it gets the job done & in a configuration that suites me, none of your options are cheaper no matter what range of AMD hex core i was on about.
You can carry on with your arrogant stance of what makes sense to you based on your narrow views of what people needs & circumstances are all you like because even when they are pointed out to you, you still ignore them.
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Soldato
so hold on a second there, so why are Cebit did ASROCK basically claim that their 890FX board WILL support Bulldozer, even though its an AM3 board...?
am I missing something here?
Edit: this article claims MSI and ASROCK have AMD 8 series motherboards (AM3) which are Bulldozer ready...? (actually can't post, has competitors in the site!)
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Soldato
so hold on a second there, so why are Cebit did ASROCK basically claim that their 890FX board WILL support Bulldozer, even though its an AM3 board...?
am I missing something here?
Edit: this article claims MSI and ASROCK have AMD 8 series motherboards (AM3) which are Bulldozer ready...? (actually can't post, has competitors in the site!)
As far as I am aware, the 8 series chipsets DO support bulldozer with no loss of features.
HOWEVER, AM3+ uses a different number of pins than AM3 so you won't be able to drop a new chip into the current motherboards.
Why they chose a different amount of pins if the 8 series chipset works otherwise is beyond me.
Soldato
Will my mobo support the new Bull chips?
Soldato
that makes even less sense, what the devil is going on? reading an article here claiming that a 'partner' of AMD has managed to get one of the sample Bulldozer chips working in socket AM3 with a special BIOS. so, that suggests that they are compatible pin for pin with AM3 surely, or else how would it fit?
Soldato
I for one genuinely don't have a clue, as I said Im confused to hell with the contradictory things flying around all over the net, some claim it will work with AM3 and some claim it absolutely will not work with AM3, since I have read absolutely nothing about Bulldozer really, no 'previews' or anything, no idea about the pin layout I think its gonna be impossible to tell until they are released. seems weird that JF is saying the absolutely will not work with AM3, but as said before a motherboard manufacturer 'claimed' to be able to get Bulldozer working with a special BIOS...
Soldato
I hope it'll work as I bought this mobo quite recently for a hefty amount. Fingers crossed BIOS update should be able to sort it out!
Associate
Well, John has already said numerous times here and elsewhere that it won't be supported.
Soldato
June sounds too long... I hope the motherboards will be released earlier.
Soldato
curious why though? since visible AM3 and AM3+ are identical...
They have different pin arrangements.......
Soldato
really, how different, when i was looking at MSI big bang conquerer online the other week, couldn't see any different or anymore holes in the socket itself..?
Soldato
wow! you must have eyes like a hawk to spot that, so were talking one pin difference? 
hold on a second, what about the pin layout on the actual chip, does it have a pin for that hole? is there any shots of Bulldozer pin-out?
hold on a second, what about the pin layout on the actual chip, does it have a pin for that hole? is there any shots of Bulldozer pin-out?
Soldato
Question is why? I understand the extra pin is for power regulation...
Am I right thinking the AM3 Phenom II/Athlon II has a DDR2 and DDR3 controller onboard, yet BD will have no DDR2 controller? Why such a similar pin layout?
Am I right thinking the AM3 Phenom II/Athlon II has a DDR2 and DDR3 controller onboard, yet BD will have no DDR2 controller? Why such a similar pin layout?
Soldato
thats why I was asking the cynical question of whether Bulldozer even has a pin for that hole or whether its all just to say its not compatible with AM3...?
The people asking if it will be supported on your current boards, I am 97% sure the answer is NO, given that JF_AMD himself has said it and think about it, if he goes around spouting incorrect information it's his job on the line. So I think he can be trusted.
Those of you talking about Bulldozer working on 8 series chipsets - yes it will, but you need a completely different board. The chipset supports Bulldozer, but needs to be built on a board to support it from the ground up.
At the end of the day, you might as well just get a 9 series chipset as you'll need to switch board anyway. Personally i'll be sticking where I am to see what happens with Bulldozer performance, it's an FX-6000/8000 and an ITX board or an i7-2600S and the DH67CF.
Those of you talking about Bulldozer working on 8 series chipsets - yes it will, but you need a completely different board. The chipset supports Bulldozer, but needs to be built on a board to support it from the ground up.
At the end of the day, you might as well just get a 9 series chipset as you'll need to switch board anyway. Personally i'll be sticking where I am to see what happens with Bulldozer performance, it's an FX-6000/8000 and an ITX board or an i7-2600S and the DH67CF.