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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

well i am thinking on what to do since my system is not running right , i might change sides tbh and i cannot beleive i am saying this as i am a long time amd fan lol
 
manveruppd said:
@chaotic: what did you get? A 6-core? And what's wrong with it?
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i cannot seem to find what is causing my problems , first i thought it was the psu but found it was not (tested with another psu) . it just seems to hate being overclcoked no matter the settings i use , when all my system is at stock speeds while playing rage it keeps freezing no matter the driver i use . ready for starting from scratch tbh
 
Is that the system in your sig? Can't help you as I've never had one of the Phenoms, but if you've had it at >4GHz for awhile it's not unlikely it's just starting to go... That IS an extraordinary amount of stress you've put it through.
 
manveruppd said:
Is that the system in your sig? Can't help you as I've never had one of the Phenoms, but if you've had it at >4GHz for awhile it's not unlikely it's just starting to go... That IS an extraordinary amount of stress you've put it through.
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had it at 3.9ghz for months then lately problems began , i was told that i was not using enough voltage .tried it at 4ghz with at 1.45-1.46v and it was fine for 4 days then system restarts for no reason , it is now at stock and rage still gives pausing problems . i might just get a new cpu to test it on , something like the fx6100
 
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james.miller said:
Are you thinking of the TLB patch for the k10's to stop the cpu hanging? I dont remember any other patches for dul cores and the TLB patch reduced performance by 10-20%
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Nope, there was a Dual Core Optimiser patch for K8s, stopped judder and lock ups from threads being passed between the two cores and the thread not liking it.
 
Jokester said:
Nope, there was a Dual Core Optimiser patch for K8s, stopped judder and lock ups from threads being passed between the two cores and the thread not liking it.
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And that was for XP, as it was built in on Vista.
I'd call it more of a "Working as intended" rather than an optimiser like.
And isn't that more down to the fact that back then, 2 cores were a new thing?
 
chaotic_uk said:
had it at 3.9ghz for months then lately problems began , i was told that i was not using enough voltage .tried it at 4ghz with at 1.45-1.46v and it was fine for 4 days then system restarts for no reason , it is now at stock and rage still gives pausing problems . i might just get a new cpu to test it on , something like the fx6100
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You've reinstalled windows right? Every time I get an issue like that it's out with the CD wallet. Saved so much time compared to trying to find the source of problems.

Could easily be a rubbish driver, if you run ATI (like me), then I'd give it a shot. I've had to reinstall 4 times in 2 years due to rubbish drivers from ATI/AMD.

(Before anyone starts again, they were all immediately after installing the latest driver using different methods. Straight over the top, uninstalling first, and uninstalling and wiping with driver sweeper first all tried).
 
Muel said:
You've reinstalled windows right? Every time I get an issue like that it's out with the CD wallet. Saved so much time compared to trying to find the source of problems.

Could easily be a rubbish driver, if you run ATI (like me), then I'd give it a shot. I've had to reinstall 4 times in 2 years due to rubbish drivers from ATI/AMD.

(Before anyone starts again, they were all immediately after installing the latest driver using different methods. Straight over the top, uninstalling first, and uninstalling and wiping with driver sweeper first all tried).
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i did a fresh install 3 weeks ago
 
chaotic_uk said:
had it at 3.9ghz for months then lately problems began , i was told that i was not using enough voltage .tried it at 4ghz with at 1.45-1.46v and it was fine for 4 days then system restarts for no reason , it is now at stock and rage still gives pausing problems . i might just get a new cpu to test it on , something like the fx6100
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Not to derail the thread, but it sounds typical of things going wonky from being overclocked too long - I had my C2D at 3.2GHz for 2 years and then problems began, it would "forget" the overclock and put itself back at stock spontaneously (without CMOS resetting - all my other settings stayed the same), and on 2 occasions (months apart), it hung at POST for 20' and then booted into Windows normally! Dropped the OC to 2.7, was fine for a few months and more recently problems began again, that's why I'm in a hurry to upgrade (I can feel its sanity slipping through my fingers)... Can't tell you if it's your mobo or CPU, but it's par for the course when we push them this hard :)
 
Martini1991 said:
And that was for XP, as it was built in on Vista.
I'd call it more of a "Working as intended" rather than an optimiser like.
And isn't that more down to the fact that back then, 2 cores were a new thing?
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You still had dual CPU PCs back then, it's just it wasn't a common consumer configuration so most non-business software hadn't been written with mutli processors in mind. But, yeah working as intended, rather than optimiser :p

The parallel with Bulldozer though is that whether or not you spread the load, or put it all on one or two cores has a direct effect on performance and power consumption, which is something that is fairly new.
 
Jokester said:
You still had dual CPU PCs back then, it's just it wasn't a common consumer configuration so most non-business software hadn't been written with mutli processors in mind. But, yeah working as intended, rather than optimiser :p

The parallel with Bulldozer though is that whether or not you spread the load, or put it all on one or two cores has a direct effect on performance and power consumption, which is something that is fairly new.
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I should have elaborated :p.
I remember seeing an old socket 478 board (I think) with 2 CPU sockets? It could have been older.
 
manveruppd said:
...I had my C2D at 3.2GHz for 2 years and then problems began, it would "forget" the overclock and put itself back at stock spontaneously (without CMOS resetting - all my other settings stayed the same), and on 2 occasions (months apart), it hung at POST for 20' and then booted into Windows normally! Dropped the OC to 2.7, was fine for a few months and more recently problems began again, ...
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I actually wonder if overclocking in itself is what causes damage (or not).

I have overclocked every single cpu I have ever owned. I have never ran a cpu at stock...ever.

I bought my Core2Duo E6600 @ 3.3Ghz, on 1st January 2007. It has been running overclocked for 4.5 years. My next upgrade is likely to be an Ivybridge CPU, though I am keeping an eye on AMD's multi core offerings.

My suspicion is that problem might be heat related - ie. if you subject a component to high heat, over many months/years, damage will be caused. I have ran watercooled for the last 8 years, so that every cpu, though overclocked, has been well cooled. I'm just wondering if that is the reason why I have never had problems.

I'm actually at a point now, where I don't care about the warranty on a CPU, simply because I have never had any problems.

I've had problems with video cards, motherboards, RAM and hard disks. But I've never ever had a problem with a CPU.
 
Martini1991 said:
I should have elaborated :p.
I remember seeing an old socket 478 board (I think) with 2 CPU sockets? It could have been older.
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Martini correct me if im wrong but i thought that the MB in your sig couldn't work with intel CPU's (still a newbie at computers)
 
chaotic_uk said:
i cannot seem to find what is causing my problems , first i thought it was the psu but found it was not (tested with another psu) . it just seems to hate being overclcoked no matter the settings i use , when all my system is at stock speeds while playing rage it keeps freezing no matter the driver i use . ready for starting from scratch tbh
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You havent got a Logitech keyboard or mouse have you? I had the exact same problem no matter what I did got pausing issues every few seconds.
Turns out its Logitechs LCore.exe file that was causing my problems, just quit that in task manager and its fine, forget to quit it and its pausings back again.
For some reason Logitech and AMD Catalyst just arent getting along at all at the minute.
 
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