AMD Bulldozer Finally!

[eyyaz]

Ahhh i see now

 

[Martini1991]

Ahhh i see now

I know where you were coming at, you were thinking ;
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-430-AS&groupid=701&catid=1903&subcat=1782

 

[almighty15]

Bulldozer is slower then a Phenom 2 clock-for-clock and eats more power so there's no reason AT ALL to move to Bulldozer if you already have a Phenom 2.

 

[Martini1991]

Bulldozer is slower then a Phenom 2 clock-for-clock and eats more power so there's no reason AT ALL to move to Bulldozer if you already have a Phenom 2.

There's no reason to buy BD period

 

[almighty15]

There's no reason to buy BD period

Exactly,

If you already own a Phenom 2 then keep what you have

If you're building from scratch go with Sandy Bridge

If you're stupid and don't like money buy Bulldozer.

 

[mjones1]

Well the 4100 is in stock now.

 

[Cooper]

Well the e 4100 is in stock now.

Way overpriced for a slow dual core CPU....

 

[reiyushin]

Way overpriced for a slow dual core CPU....

oh you

 

[Martini1991]

Well the 4100 is in stock now.

Woot, so far we've had two products both worse than their predecessors, epic launch is epic.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I wonder if AMD will end up releasing the A8-3870K and A6-3670K in the end??

 

[mmj_uk]

Woot, so far we've had two products both worse than their predecessors, epic launch is epic.

It makes you wonder how bad yields are at this point given that it's a 2billion transistor monster and none of the 'complete' chips have hit stores yet.

 

[Martini1991]

It makes you wonder how bad yields are at this point given that it's a 2billion transistor monster and none of the 'complete' chips have hit stores yet.

The FX4 and FX6 parts are just failed FX8 parts, except as far as I know, unlocking isn't possible.

And lolDozer fail ;

http://scalibq.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/amd-bulldozer-can-it-get-even-worse/

 

[StonedPenguin]

The FX4 and FX6 parts are just failed FX8 parts, except as far as I know, unlocking isn't possible.

And lolDozer fail ;

http://scalibq.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/amd-bulldozer-can-it-get-even-worse/

So Bulldozer is starting to look more and more like Barcelona: Not only is the performance underwhelming, but apparently the stability is not 100% either.

 

[Martini1991]

This has been an absolutely terrible launch

 

[LeJosh]

They said they were having issues at their foundries.

loldozer.

 

[Martini1991]

I wonder if the fix to the BSOD's will be another performance decrease fix like the Phenom's?

 

[almighty15]

If you loaded both systems 24/7 for a full year both at 4.8GHz overclock

BD 4.8GHz 455W x 24 = 10,920 watts per day x 365 = 3985,800 watts that's 3985Kwh per year

SB 4.8GHz 260W x 24 = 6,240 watts per day x 365 = 2277,600 watts that's 2277Kwh per year

Difference is 1708Kwh that's huge difference!!

An to top it all BD doesn't give you extra performance for all that extra power used!

With my electricity tariff of 25.17p per Kwh it would cost me per year....

£1003 to run Bulldozer flat out 24/7 at 4.8Ghz

£573 to run Snady Bridge flat out 24/7 at 4.8Ghz

Just under 50% more electricity used for 50%+ less performance....

 

[chaotic_uk]

this made me lol at the begining lol

http://www.youtube.com/user/motherboardsorg#p/u/0/pxqO8LoHxT4

 

[gareth170]

I wonder if the fix to the BSOD's will be another performance decrease fix like the Phenom's?

well if BD does have the TLB bug and if amd brings out a B3 or C0 to fix it. people should have the right to rma they B2 chip as it's faulty.

if i keep the 8150 i will try to do that.

one other thing that may be making it unstable is the bios

 

[StonedPenguin]

With my electricity tariff of 25.17p per Kwh it would cost me per year....

Your being robbed, I pay 11.5p per KwH. Thats using a pre-payment token meter too..