AMD Bulldozer Finally!

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Jun 2011 at 13:37

Llano is launching in the middle of the month and Bulldozer is supposedly looking great:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/computex-2011-no-llano-launch-as-amd-focuses-on-tablets/6016

pastymuncher · 1 Jun 2011 at 13:53

Looks like a 2-3 month wait for Bulldozer yet. See here.

BigAndy87 · 1 Jun 2011 at 14:13

oh dear longer they leave it, closer to intels launch of newer cpus that may well shame amds offerings :rolleyes:

zxh800 · 1 Jun 2011 at 14:17

As long as Bulldozer beats the current Sandy Bridge line-up I'm happy. I don't think I can afford the E-Sandy Bridge processors anyway.

panyan · 1 Jun 2011 at 14:18

pastymuncher said:
Looks like a 2-3 month wait for Bulldozer yet. See here.

AWESOME

RizlaKing · 1 Jun 2011 at 14:20

AMD definately need to polish thier consumer relations as BD hasn't been handled very well so much hype so much expectation and quite a bit of disappointment. Personally i would prefer a solid release date that way i can then make an informed decision on whether i am prepared to wait or if i will just go with an intel setup.

As of right now am still happy to wait a bit more but certainly not indefinately and will have an upgrade done by september ready for the usual rush of games leading upto xmas

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CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Jun 2011 at 14:33

HardOCP did say they may show Bulldozer at an event they are holding in July:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1610493

jrwagh333 · 1 Jun 2011 at 14:34

Is there a comparison sheet anywhere. Comparing all the 900 series chipsets? 990X, 990GX, 990FX etc?

Andrei23 · 1 Jun 2011 at 14:53

Gotta wonder how much money AMD is losing to Intel due to this delay

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Jun 2011 at 14:58

Andrei23 said:
Gotta wonder how much money AMD is losing to Intel due to this delay

Probably not as much as people think they are though. Zacate actually doubled their profits for the first part of the year. Llano was meant to be Q3 2011 but is already shipping and Interlagos(the server version of Bulldozer) was due to be released in Q3 2011 anyway and Cray already have announced the XK6 which uses it.

In fact Llano is probably more important for the consumer sales of AMD than Bulldozer ATM as it will be used in laptops as well.

Hagar · 1 Jun 2011 at 15:00

Andrei23 said:
Gotta wonder how much money AMD is losing to Intel due to this delay

Not a lot, the OEM's like Dell will still ship both flavours and only the likes of us will get all in a bunch about it.

My next upgrade is not due till next year anyhow.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Jun 2011 at 15:05

Bulldozer on LN2 supposedly:

http://diybbs.zol.com.cn/10/11_99255.html

AFAIK,it is the same website which had some benchmarks of Llano recently.

pmc25 · 1 Jun 2011 at 15:07

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Haha!

So no wonder July,August and September were release dates.

Funnily there is a picture of Trinity:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4393/computex-2011-amd-bulldozer-llano-trinity-new-vision-branding

According to Anandtech the B1 processors are easily hitting 3.8GHZ as stated before in this thread:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4389/computex-2011-msis-x79-and-llano-motherboards

Supposedly at 3.8GHZ it did not give the performance AMD wanted!

So either Bulldozer needs very high frequencies to perform well or AMD is trying to target the lower end Sandy Bridge E processors.

It seems that Toms Hardware was correct as they talked about B0 processors only.

Pretty sure you will see performance demos at E3 / AMD's event the week after, and benchmarks.

If these reports are true, the reason they're not releasing them is because ALL chips due to be launched are FX and with unlocked multipliers. If they don't overclock very, very well .... it'll be viewed as a disappointment.

If they had chosen to have FX and non-FX versions, they could have launched the non-FX versions with the B1 stepping.

Instead, we now wait until end of July / August.

I'm sure they perform perfectly adequately @3.8Ghz and may well beat Sandy Bridge comfortably ... it's just that they can't launch a top of the line FX chip @ 3.8Ghz that doesn't clock to circa 5Ghz.

clocka · 1 Jun 2011 at 15:19

shame this only has 2xUSB3 ports: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-176-MS

as that means no usb3 ports for the front of a case. Not that there's many cases with usb3 ports yet

adwol48 · 1 Jun 2011 at 15:24

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Bulldozer on LN2 supposedly:

http://diybbs.zol.com.cn/10/11_99255.html

AFAIK,it is the same website which had some benchmarks of Llano recently.

and ir's supposedly a B0 stepping so could the B1 and B2 steppings go even further.

DragonQ · 1 Jun 2011 at 15:33

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Bulldozer on LN2 supposedly:

http://diybbs.zol.com.cn/10/11_99255.html

AFAIK,it is the same website which had some benchmarks of Llano recently.

No way can a B0 stepping get 6 GHz if they are delaying due to their chips not being able to clock high enough.

pmc25 · 1 Jun 2011 at 15:43

DragonQ said:
No way can a B0 stepping get 6 GHz if they are delaying due to their chips not being able to clock high enough.

It's on Liquid Nitrogen ... Thuban goes well north of 6Ghz on LN2. So yes it is perfectly plausible.

How large a market segment is the on-LN2-max-overclock crowd of enthusiasts? 0.01% of overclockers?

DragonQ · 1 Jun 2011 at 15:53

Oh sorry, missed the LN2 bit.

So maybe the chips are hotter than Sandy Bridge and that's why they apparently don't overclock as well?

Hagar · 1 Jun 2011 at 15:55

pmc25 said:
It's on Liquid Nitrogen ... Thuban goes well north of 6Ghz on LN2. So yes it is perfectly plausible.

How large a market segment is the on-LN2-max-overclock crowd of enthusiasts? 0.01% of overclockers?

We have 1Day

Leo101b · 1 Jun 2011 at 16:00

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Bulldozer on LN2 supposedly:

http://diybbs.zol.com.cn/10/11_99255.html

AFAIK,it is the same website which had some benchmarks of Llano recently.

Hmm 1.9 V, probably wouldn't last too long at that.....