Does seem that way and people will dodge the question when it is pretty relevant to the "as yet unreleased AMD GPUs" I would hate to buy a brand new 390X and miss out on DX12 goodness.
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AMD Confirms GCN Cards Don’t Feature Full DirectX 12 Support – Feature Level 11_1 on GCN 1.0, Featur
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Does seem that way and people will dodge the question when it is pretty relevant to the "as yet unreleased AMD GPUs" I would hate to buy a brand new 390X and miss out on DX12 goodness.
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I'm concerned as I bought a 290x which I had planned on keeping for a couple of years or more with a second card if need be. I've had to change those plans for several reasons and now I want a replacement,
What ever I buy I'd like to get a couple of years out of it, more if a second card being added is feasable. By feasable I mean it needs to have enough ram and decent dual card support.
Because I want it to last this long I want something with as much DX12 support as possible,
I still do not know which brand to buy, I'm waiting on Fiji however that is a high risk option due to on going support or lack of and me wondering how will it be in a year or two's time.
It's a big decision because it is followed by a monitor purchase that effectively ties me to a brand.
For this reason it is a long term investment and the more data I can get before making a decision the better.
What ever I buy I'd like to get a couple of years out of it, more if a second card being added is feasable. By feasable I mean it needs to have enough ram and decent dual card support.
Because I want it to last this long I want something with as much DX12 support as possible,
I still do not know which brand to buy, I'm waiting on Fiji however that is a high risk option due to on going support or lack of and me wondering how will it be in a year or two's time.
It's a big decision because it is followed by a monitor purchase that effectively ties me to a brand.
For this reason it is a long term investment and the more data I can get before making a decision the better.
So do I. But is has a large enough sample base to be statistically accurate.
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Actually it's a fairly accurate survey.
Allowing people to opt in or out is similar to how the exit polls worked for the election and they were near enough spot on.
Unless you think somehow more r9 200 series users opt out of it than Maxwell V2 users do?
Absolutely Nasha and I would want to know what is what before I buy. All Maxwell cards are full DX12 compliant (except for the 750Ti) but cureently none of the AMD cards are and looking sketchy for the 3 series from AMD. I don't even know if Fiji will even fully support DX12 but I would hope so.
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"Goodness" That will very likely not make it into games anyways. I very doubt all these feature levels will be seen in games.. What happened to Tiled Resources?? A break through in texture streaming in DX11.2 did we see this in any games? Nope!
https://blogs.windows.com/bloggingw...rces-enables-optimized-pc-gaming-experiences/
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if you compare the steam survey to other games where they track these metrics (where they don't even ask your permission as it's in the EULA) they compare pretty well, and if you compare them against market sales data over the last 5 years again it compares pretty well
it is mainly AMD protagonists who don't like hearing that AMD sell less GPU's than anyone else that refuse to accept the steam survey as having any kind of validity, funnily enough
and yet when a fake graph showing "GCN = DX12 tier 3 support" was posted, DX12 was the second coming, now the shoe is on the other foot all of a sudden it doesn't matter
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It matter to me I cant wait for DX12 and the main benefits of the API will be supports on most systems anyways so we all should be very happy with that.
DX11 was dead long ago and DX11.2 didn't see a single game that I know of? But to write off DX12 techs and say "that will very likely not make it into games anyway" is a typical head in the sand response and with yourself being a massive proponent of Mantle, I expected better from you. DX12 will be the go to API and there is a real buzz about it.
I would rather buy a GPU that can run all of DX12s techs instead of hoping they don't implement them. That is some seriously backward thinking there
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And the difference between 12_0 and 12_1 is..?
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My 290 has enough support for me not to be worried. If any games come out showing that it's out dated and i need to upgrade then this is what i will do. I feel more sorry for Nvidia 7 series users who have less support and paid way more than i did.
It's a wait and see thing and by the time it really matters not that it doesn't i bet most sigs in here will look rather different.
It's a wait and see thing and by the time it really matters not that it doesn't i bet most sigs in here will look rather different.
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DX11 was dead long ago and DX11.2 didn't see a single game that I know of? But to write off DX12 techs and say "that will very likely not make it into games anyway" is a typical head in the sand response and with yourself being a massive proponent of Mantle, I expected better from you. DX12 will be the go to API and there is a real buzz about it.
I would rather buy a GPU that can run all of DX12s techs instead of hoping they don't implement them. That is some seriously backward thinking there
You missing my point! The Key features of DX12 over DX11 is supported on most systems already. These are the key "GoodNESS" and what will boost performance.
Everything else is just extra effects, that will most likely not make it into games.
Only game I can think of was BF4 11.2.. But like I said a killer break through in tech tile texture streaming and we still not even seen it happen in a game yet.
Well glad to finally have some confirmation as to what is what for AMD's "current" gpus, can't say I am surprised tbh and it won't affect me as chances are by the time we see DX 12 games, myself and I imagine most people on this forum will be on the latest GPUs anyway. DX 12 will be a game changer afaic, however, like everything, we have to rely on the game developers to make proper and full use of the benefits.
But 1 thing, have people actually said "DX 12 is mantle"? I'm pretty sure most people have been saying that DX 12 is very similar to mantle, which when going by anandtech's in-depth comparison, there is no denying that both API's are very similar, at least for the outcome/end result anyway.
Also, I very much doubt that AMD are going to be that stupid to not include full dx12 support on their new cards... especially after all the PR/marketing they have been putting into DX 12 and the benefits it will bring.
But 1 thing, have people actually said "DX 12 is mantle"? I'm pretty sure most people have been saying that DX 12 is very similar to mantle, which when going by anandtech's in-depth comparison, there is no denying that both API's are very similar, at least for the outcome/end result anyway.
Also, I very much doubt that AMD are going to be that stupid to not include full dx12 support on their new cards... especially after all the PR/marketing they have been putting into DX 12 and the benefits it will bring.
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Didn't the 2XX series come out nearly two years ago? Would people expect them to fully support Direct X12 that isn't even being used in any games yet? Seems an odd thing to worry about for such an old series of GPU's..
The 3XX series will be here soon, I imagine even the 4XX series in time for actual DirectX 12 games. Guessing it's a slow news day.
The 3XX series will be here soon, I imagine even the 4XX series in time for actual DirectX 12 games. Guessing it's a slow news day.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/search.php?searchid=22149425
Just been reading back through some of those threads and it is quite an eye opener. Sometimes it takes a bigger man to stand up and say "Well, I was wrong and I apologise" but seems some would rather jump on me
At least if I get it wrong, I hold my hands up and admit it.
Just been reading back through some of those threads and it is quite an eye opener. Sometimes it takes a bigger man to stand up and say "Well, I was wrong and I apologise" but seems some would rather jump on me
At least if I get it wrong, I hold my hands up and admit it.