AMD Confirms GCN Cards Don’t Feature Full DirectX 12 Support – Feature Level 11_1 on GCN 1.0, Featur

LambChop · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:19

JediFragger said:
I personally think 12_0 support for a nearly 2-year old architecture is pretty bloody good!!!

Shows its quality imo...

pandem0nium said:
Most people who bought GCN cards, maybe over three years ago, wouldn't have expected it to support dx 12. The fact that they do and to a good extent is a massive bonus

That's the spirit

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:20

Silent_Scone said:
There's no clear legislation for it yet. But you can be confident Kepler will support the base tiers along with GCN

Ah,OK.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:20

Also,how many DX12 games are confirmed for this year??

Silent_Scone · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:21

Ayahuasca said:
All this fuss over DX12 is laughable, the main culprits being people who upgrade their cards every generation or two anyway.

Greg you do seem to be going out of your way a little to try and shed AMD in poor light, what with the GTA shadow thread last night, the DX12 thread last week and now this.

Actually it's more to do with how people perceive the news. You can't really just shoot the messenger for relaying facts.

Especially considering there is actual confusion surrounding the level of vendor support up until the last month.

LambChop · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:23

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Also,how many DX12 games are confirmed for this year??

What does that have to do with it ?

Ayahuasca · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:28

Silent_Scone said:
Actually it's more to do with how people perceive the news. You can't really just shoot the messenger for relaying facts.

Especially considering there is actual confusion surrounding the level of vendor support up until the last month.

That's not all he's doing though with some of the recent threads he's clearly trying to stir the pot.

In this very thread he called out DM then apologises a few posts later. Last nights GTA V shadow thread he makes a generalisation that the AMD shadow option is broken when in fact it isn't when AMD users have tested it.

LambChop · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:29

Ayahuasca said:
That's not all he's doing though with some of the recent threads he's clearly trying to stir the pot.

In this very thread he called out DM then apologises a few posts later. Last nights GTA V shadow thread he makes a generalisation that the AMD shadow option is broken when in fact it isn't when AMD users have tested it.

Go easy Aya, he's hardly got a side he's picked. He owns both brands.

Marine-RX179 · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:29

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Also,how many DX12 games are confirmed for this year??

LambChop said:
What does that have to do with it ?

Marine-RX179 said:
And to be honest, by time that decent dx12 titles actually hit the shelf, think most 780/290 series user would be already upgrading to the die shrink next gen card?

I think Cat's point is that people are making to big a deal of the older cards not fully supporting dx12, when it would most likely be a non-issue in the end since by then people would already have left their 290/780 series cards behind and already on the new cards.

Ayahuasca · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:30

LambChop said:
Go easy Aya, he's hardly got a side he's picked. He owns both brands.

Owning both brands doesn't mean you can't be biased, in fact it can make you more biased.

I'm just giving my observations of some of his recent threads which others have picked up on as well.

LambChop · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:32

The point being, we were told Mantle is DX. It's clearly not. Yet when there was 2 games that supported Mantle there was 3.8 million threads about it. Now that DX clearly isnt Mantle and clearly no AMD cards have full support. It's now, there's no games anyway lol. I love this place.

james.miller · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:32

Who cares, most of us will have moved on from our current GPUs by the time any worthwhile dx12 games are released.

Full support is a nice thing to have but that's about it right now.

Squink · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:32

LambChop said:
Go easy Aya, he's hardly got a side he's picked. He owns both brands.

For some reason I've got a packet of plain digestives in the cupboard at home. They'll never get eaten. If anyone asks me what my least favourite biscuit is I'll truthfully tell them it's plain digestives. I also own a packet of chocolate digestives which I love.

Marine-RX179 · 5 Jun 2015 at 11:36

james.miller said:
Who cares, most of us will have moved on from our current GPUs by the time any worthwhile dx12 games are released.

Full support is a nice thing to have but that's about it right now.

^This

Quote for truth.

As a 290x owner I am interested on the performance of 980Ti and Fury not because I will be upgrading to them, but the bar that they set in terms of performance, so that I would know the minimum amount of performance I can expect for the true next gen die shrink graphic cards that hit next year

LambChop · 5 Jun 2015 at 12:01

mulpsmebeauty said:
For some reason I've got a packet of plain digestives in the cupboard at home. They'll never get eaten. If anyone asks me what my least favourite biscuit is I'll truthfully tell them it's plain digestives. I also own a packet of chocolate digestives which I love.

Get some custard creams, you'll never go back

StrongSad · 5 Jun 2015 at 12:06

mulpsmebeauty said:
For some reason I've got a packet of plain digestives in the cupboard at home. They'll never get eaten. If anyone asks me what my least favourite biscuit is I'll truthfully tell them it's plain digestives. I also own a packet of chocolate digestives which I love.

Make a cheese cake.... everybody loves cheese cake

Stanners · 5 Jun 2015 at 12:08

Strudders said:
Make a cheese cake.... everybody loves cheese cake

Or he could stop buying rubbish he does not like

Gregster · 5 Jun 2015 at 12:31

It does seem easier to jump on me rather than discuss the actual article. People seem to feel this is an attack thread at their family members but if you read the original article, it wasn't me that wrote it and for as long as I can remember, it has always been fine to post news threads that concern graphics cards in the graphics forum. Caryy on with the digs and jabs by all means but it won't change the fact that the article clears up some misconceptions that people were earlier getting wrong.

No current GCN card fully supports DX12
DX12 isn't Mantle with a new name
Only 9 series Maxwell fully supports DX12

And whilst these things are clear, not sure if people are reading the article at all as a few are saying things like "not surprised it isn't supported on 2 year old tech" etc but the questions remain for the forthcoming Grenada and even the Fiji cards, "will the 290/x rebrands fully support DX12? Will even the Fiji card fully support DX12? These are questions that need answering and I would like to buy a newly released GPU that fully supports DX12 now and not miss out in 6 months or less time.

Edit:

And some are saying "Not any games out that support DX12" and "by the time DX12 games are out, we will be on newer tech" but that then goes back to people still using (and buying) 2/3 year old tech and what if the newer Grenada cards/Fiji cards don't fully support DX12 in 2 years time?

kaku · 5 Jun 2015 at 12:34

Tit for tat really. How long is it going to be before there's games built around DX12 anyway?

It's just the same brigade that always say you should buy AMD because of Mantle, or because of DX12 support, or because of HBM...

LoadsaMoney · 5 Jun 2015 at 12:36

Gregster · 5 Jun 2015 at 12:37

kaku said:
Tit for tat really. How long is it going to be before there's games built around DX12 anyway?

First games are coming in December this year.

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