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The most relevant question is how close can Alderlake get to current Ryzen 5000 and under what scenario.
Intel are playing catch up.
It the costs involved as well switching to Alder Lake when you factor in the cost of a new motherboard as well.
Next to these VCACHE added Zen 3's which would be a drop in upgrade for many of us after a BIOS update.
It's certainly a good reason to hold out until Q1 imho before making a decision.
Anyone on Zen 2/3 would likely just wait until AM5 at this point, i won't bother with Zen 3D, rather save the money towards a newer platform mid/late next year at least, and DDR5 will likely be pretty good by then.I think those on older platforms on Intel will be tempted to switch to AL, if you're already on Ryzen these 3D chips will soothe the upgrade itch.
And people are right doesn't appear there will be a big gap between AL and Zen 3 in gaming, surely the leaks/promo would have indicated that already. Very curious to see what 3D does for games though, probably AMD will be best for gaming on average.
Anyone on Zen 2/3 would likely just wait until AM5 at this point, i won't bother with Zen 3D, rather save the money towards a newer platform mid/late next year at least, and DDR5 will likely be pretty good by then.
I expect Alder Lake to beat current Zen 3 in gaming and I hope this kicks off some back-and-forth for years to come.
@Twinz - Yeah, I think people with new Zen 3 boards should definitely stick to that platform. The difference between Zen3 + 3D cache and Alder Lake will be small and 12/16 large cores should be faster.
That remains to be seen, and beating it is subjective, +2% is beating it to some, Intel have a lot of catching up to do, it would need to be quite a leap over Rocket Lake to beat Zen 3.
I don't think people with Zen 3 are going to be looking at it enviously, those with Zen 1 / 2 will be smart enough to wait if its their time to upgrade, there will be quite a few budget hunters looking at the 12400F but choke at the boards and ram, and a few with very deep pockets who just want the latest and greatest.
Intel think AMD are done, even said that, Intel are deluded, people trust AMD to deliver and all they have to do is make a bit of noise about what's coming in the next couple of months and the majority of people will just hold off because either way you look at it ALD is going to be a very expensive thing and its not going to be good enough to be worth its outlay, Intel's problem is AMD, and yes that's a good thing
I think competition is good, but i hate Intel's arrogance and they are not providing competition when their platform is going to be so expensive.
Yup, but I bet the small cores can be disabled if they cause performance issues - the 8 large cores should be plenty for most ppl.
@jigger - I think that simplifies things way too much. single core performance always matters more than core count.