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**AMD Fiji Thread**

And here I was trying to be pleasent, guess it's just all out attack mode in this subforum.

Nothing wrong with a bit of speculation as long as it is from the correct family of cards, right?

Seems like there were a lot of other posts in this thread you could've picked on, but you chose me. Didn't feel very pleasant to be singled out given the rest of the thread. So you attack me, I attack back.
could've chosen any post that didn't mention the Fury X, Fury or Fury Nano but you chose mine, and I wasn't supposed to take that as an attack?

The more I read about Fury the more I edge towards a 980Ti. I prefer AMD where possible but given the performance similarity based on leaked (AMD) benches I think the extra 2GB will make me sleep better at night. :)

I know HBM is an unknown entity and that to date I have had zero problems with 4GB VRAM at 4K, I always tend towards more = better with VRAM.

Will see how availability, reviews and prices go on Wed I s'pose. If the price gouging is too much I will just get a 780Ti.

I believe it was AMDMatt that said you can never have too much VRAM!
 
With regards to the Kitguru situation. If I was running AMD I wouldnt give them anything either. They have burned their bridges by acting in a whiney and unprofessional manner.

Why shouldn't AMD be allowed to prioritise who gets to review cards first. Anyone in any industry would do the same and defend their product.
 
To be fair thats not quite true. The new drivers for the 300 series work fine with the 200 series by just modifying the inf.

People are reporting 10 fps more in Witcher with their 290x cards which is a 20% gain.

I cant see any reason why these couldnt have been released as beta for the 200 series now.

Modifying the inf.
Can you explain how to do that please.
 
Hi, but Computex was on the 2nd of June. This room was a show room. Unless Allan is in fact outright lying in saying he was told that it's purpose was to 'build hype'. Best we drop this anyway, it's of little consequence. I've been informed already how cantankerous it's been for certain individuals to get samples and / or information till very recently.

He very specifically said they had stuff on show on the floor then talked about a door that said no entry and he directly referred to as the NDA room. Then he said they were taking in 'customers' in that room who were going to 'buy stuff' and 'pay money'.

This is again what he categorically stated was a NDA room with no entry written on it. These 'customers' are clearly not general public. It's a NDA room, people who sign NDA's go in it, partners and AMD would never in a million years give Joe Bloggs who comes to a trade show an NDA and say come see Fiji, then exclude the press.

OEM 'customers' are guys these partners work with on a day to day basis, have NDA's with, know not to leak information. That room is for them and them alone. Press go in the NDA room at the event that preceeds the launch event, that was E3 this time, general public NEVER go in the NDA room.
 
With regards to the Kitguru situation. If I was running AMD I wouldnt give them anything either. They have burned their bridges by acting in a whiney and unprofessional manner.

Why shouldn't AMD be allowed to prioritise who gets to review cards first. Anyone in any industry would do the same and defend their product.

That's exactly who I would give a card to if I was AMD.

You see, if you get someone with a gripe or two to voice, you do not alienate them, you turn that to your advantage. Let your products do the talking.

What he said hurt a lot of AMD fanboys, so everyone knows outwith the suppliers what he is like, let the public deal with it.
 
With regards to the Kitguru situation. If I was running AMD I wouldnt give them anything either. They have burned their bridges by acting in a whiney and unprofessional manner.

Why shouldn't AMD be allowed to prioritise who gets to review cards first. Anyone in any industry would do the same and defend their product.

i agree aslong as they do good reviews!
a lot of the freesync reviews were lacking, they didnt tell me anything i wanted to know

& u were right i shouldnt of brought the drama my bad :) lol
i have weird sense of humor!
 
He very specifically said they had stuff on show on the floor then talked about a door that said no entry and he directly referred to as the NDA room. Then he said they were taking in 'customers' in that room who were going to 'buy stuff' and 'pay money'.

This is again what he categorically stated was a NDA room with no entry written on it. These 'customers' are clearly not general public. It's a NDA room, people who sign NDA's go in it, partners and AMD would never in a million years give Joe Bloggs who comes to a trade show an NDA and say come see Fiji, then exclude the press.

OEM 'customers' are guys these partners work with on a day to day basis, have NDA's with, know not to leak information. That room is for them and them alone. Press go in the NDA room at the event that preceeds the launch event, that was E3 this time, general public NEVER go in the NDA room.

Hi,

Looking at a few reports it would appear it was a Sapphire demo room, could well possibly be tier 1 distro were allowed in. Does not really answer why press weren't when the product is ready to launch. As someone said, maybe it should be dropped as you seem adamant this is normal. I am not judging my concerns off Alans rant alone, I don't agree with everything he says - I do know however he is not the only person to become disgruntled by how this product launch has panned out thus far.
 
I'll be very interesting to see how the Fury-X performs regarding cross-fire scaling, with 2 or 3 cards.

Historically AMD have had the edge on this, but it's varied from game to game - not to mention the 900 series from Nvidia have been quite strong in this regard for some games.

The advantage will be with AIO it will make x3 card set-ups manageable regarding heat (assuming you have a large enough case for all the rads) & should assuming the over-clock potential is as good as they say - allow for some amazingly powerful multi-card setups.

The final question will be, how will the drivers be for new games going forward. Many points to consider, but I'm leaning towards a tri-card solution at the moment assuming the benchmarks match my expectations & they have a nice pool to overclock from.
 
That's exactly who I would give a card to if I was AMD.

You see, if you get someone with a gripe or two to voice, you do not alienate them, you turn that to your advantage. Let your products do the talking.

What he said hurt a lot of AMD fanboys, so everyone knows outwith the suppliers what he is like, let the public deal with it.

that's not how the real world works - NVidia did EXACTLY the same thing to hardwaresecrets and others before for either releasing a review early , or not `talking` about what they specifically wanted. Kit guru are solely to blame for having a tantrum.
 
That's exactly who I would give a card to if I was AMD.

You see, if you get someone with a gripe or two to voice, you do not alienate them, you turn that to your advantage. Let your products do the talking.

What he said hurt a lot of AMD fanboys, so everyone knows outwith the suppliers what he is like, let the public deal with it.

If AMD's Fury is as good as every one is expecting it to be you wouldn't need to give it to any one. Word of mouth will soon tell if it's a Titan beater.

This is the most fickle industry ever with the most fickle users ever. All this hate being directed at AMD will soon turn to bum kissing if Fury can deliver the goods.
 
That does leave me worried that the big review sites are not allowed to have samples to review. That doesn't look good for AMD and I have enjoyed most of PCPer's reviews along with KitGuru, TTL and LTT. Hopefully there isn't anything in that and we get to see some official reviews soon from unbiased reviewers. Money is burning a hole in my pocket lol.
 
I'll be very interesting to see how the Fury-X performs regarding cross-fire scaling, with 2 or 3 cards.

Historically AMD have had the edge on this, but it's varied from game to game - not to mention the 900 series from Nvidia have been quite strong in this regard for some games.

The advantage will be with AIO it will make x3 card set-ups manageable regarding heat (assuming you have a large enough case for all the rads) & should assuming the over-clock potential is as good as they say - allow for some amazingly powerful multi-card setups.

The final question will be, how will the drivers be for new games going forward. Many points to consider, but I'm leaning towards a tri-card solution at the moment assuming the benchmarks match my expectations & they have a nice pool to overclock from.

AMD seem to be putting a lot of priority into windows10 like weve seen with recent drivers, bit soon to say about crossfire stuff tho
it may just depend which games you play like its always been!

i personally think the fury will beat even the tx on performance in some stuff
 
Hi,

Ryan Shrout is someone else who's having a tantrum then.

https://twitter.com/ryanshrout/status/611707106010378240

I doubt AMD would have lied in the benchmarks.

Their stock levels aren't going to be great in the beginning, and after that the real reviews will be all over the place. AMD are't looking to push any dodgy benchmarks around, as they would be quickly crushed if their not accurate and future sales will suffer greatly.

I'm not saying sites should be posting about those benchmarks, but if sites don't trust AMD, that isn't going to end with a benchmark.
 
That does leave me worried that the big review sites are not allowed to have samples to review. That doesn't look good for AMD and I have enjoyed most of PCPer's reviews along with KitGuru, TTL and LTT. Hopefully there isn't anything in that and we get to see some official reviews soon from unbiased reviewers. Money is burning a hole in my pocket lol.

Hi,

In all fairness both vendors have had equally as bad moments, it's when one tries to justify it as the norm that's slightly obtuse. AMD should want to scream about the performance of this product, it's the first of it's kind.
 
Emma Long ‏@EmmaLongL 10h10 hours ago
@ryanshrout I can already sense your negativity going into the AMD reviews, don't trust that you will be fair about Fury X.

:)
 
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