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**AMD Fiji Thread**

I do not like these website who quote just segments of what I say to bend the truth.

I am not an AMD Rep or a NVIDIA rep, I work for OcUK. Fury is very early stage with voltage and new drivers it could batter Maxwell, it is way to early to know yet.


Now I wait for some website to just quote the part where I say batters Maxwell.

Selective quoting infuriates me, quote the truth in full or not at all, scumbags.

You're at the wheel, or mouth. Better to shut it than rebut it as they say.

Just saying
 
I do not like these website who quote just segments of what I say to bend the truth.

I am not an AMD Rep or a NVIDIA rep, I work for OcUK. Fury is very early stage with voltage and new drivers it could batter Maxwell, it is way to early to know yet.


Now I wait for some website to just quote the part where I say batters Maxwell.

Selective quoting infuriates me, quote the truth in full or not at all, scumbags.

lol me too but it always happens that people use selective quoting to prove their point.

I've also seen it calimed that you are in Nvidia's back pocket and of course you wouldnt give the Fury a fair chance ;)

I've read the whole thread and I think you are saying just the opposite and are making the Fury x sound more and more awesome every time you post :)
 
It's always about the game scores for me, I have no interest in synthetic benchmarks.

Same here. The gigabyte g1 is really *really* fast when overclocked, so if the Fury X gets close to it stock for stock and overclocked vs overclocked it will be a storming card.
 
So what we can surmise about this card so far given the evidence available:

- Not quicker than a Gigabyte G1 980ti

I would be surprised if the G1 air-cooled card which is VRM voltage locked at 1.274v max can out-run a water-cooled card with 2 x 8pin and no real VRM issues due to HBM. We will need to see a Fury X with a hacked bios for the real answer.

Out of the box it looks like AMD are going for cool and quiet by default and as a result it should be well under the G1's 40 dbA load rating.

The 2 x 8pin connectors indicate that AMD has lots of headroom to work with, if the chip will play ball. They certainly do not need it to feed the VRAM.

Need to remember that the G1 is a custom board and Fury X is just the first stab vanilla card. Sapphire may well build a Fury X Toxic Edition. If that is anything like the 290X Toxic then we are in for a treat.
 
Same here. The gigabyte g1 is really *really* fast when overclocked, so if the Fury X gets close to it stock for stock and overclocked vs overclocked it will be a storming card.

I think if/when the voltage lock disappears the fury can have a 24/7 setting which matches the G1(even overclocked), thanks to the AIO.
 
I would be surprised if the G1 air-cooled card which is VRM voltage locked at 1.274v max can out-run a water-cooled card with 2 x 8pin and no real VRM issues due to HBM. We will need to see a Fury X with a hacked bios for the real answer.

Out of the box it looks like AMD are going for cool and quiet by default and as a result it should be well under the G1's 40 dbA load rating.

The 2 x 8pin connectors indicate that AMD has lots of headroom to work with, if the chip will play ball. They certainly do not need it to feed the VRAM.

Need to remember that the G1 is a custom board and Fury X is just the first stab vanilla card. Sapphire may well build a Fury X Toxic Edition. If that is anything like the 290X Toxic then we are in for a treat.


How sure there are any AIB partner boards? I thought Fury X was strictly reference now due to supply? Not that there is any harm in this, Sapphire actually manufacture these boards, unless that's no longer the case Gibbo can clarify. The VREGs on AMD cards are always built for more than they chew at stock unlike NVIDIA's reference Flextronic boards.
 
Do you have an official source for that flopper? Thought it was just speculation at present...

It is, both Direct3D 12 and Vulkan (previously OpenGL Next) were in development before Mantle was released. The reason fanboys are humping the idea that they are both Mantle in disguise is firstly because Direct3D 12 is apparently low level (and Mantle is too) so they "must" be the same. And secondly because Vulkan is also low level and AMD gave Khronos the Mantle source to help them with it so it "must" be Mantle (despite Nvidia, Intel, Arm, Valve and literally over a dozen other companies also helping with the design).
 
It is, both Direct3D 12 and Vulkan (previously OpenGL Next) were in development before Mantle was released. The reason fanboys are humping the idea that they are both Mantle in disguise is firstly because Direct3D 12 is apparently low level (and Mantle is too) so they "must" be the same. And secondly because Vulkan is also low level and AMD gave Khronos the Mantle source to help them with it so it "must" be Mantle (despite Nvidia, Intel, Arm, Valve and literally over a dozen other companies also helping with the design).

Just go read some Vulkan code lines and compare them to Mantle, only the prefix changes.

Vulkan is a Mantle fork.
 
Since Gibbo says it can't get to 1200MHz at stock voltage, reading between the lines we should be able to assume 1100-1150MHz is at least achievable at stock. This is a 10-15% clock boost without doing much. That should easily take it to TitanX level.

Once we get software that unlocks voltage I can see the core getting to 1250MHz + quite easily judging by how the 290X does with overclocking. With a refined process we might even see monster clocks like maxwell. I don't see the HBM holding back the gpu core even if it is new tech.
 
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Hi there


I did a test last night, I closed up my case but left the radiator just in the bottom of the case exhausting its heat inside the case, this is a really bad idea by the way, but I wanted to see how hot the card would get.

After running Heaven 4.0 all night, the maximum temperature was 58c and the fan speed never exceeded 16%, starting point percentage for the fan is 15%, so it was quieter than the case fans and I was able to sleep with no issues at all.

Loose in bottom of the case, so not drawing in fresh air and not exhausting the air, so very impressive indeed. :)

Resolution was 1080P.

So that does just go to show that my idea from ages ago of having the rad mounted on the end of the card, would work a treat. All the advantages of a closed loop water cooler with none of the disadvantages of having to find a place to put the radiator. :)
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Since Gibbo says it can't get to 1200MHz at stock voltage, reading between the lines we should be able to assume 1100-1150MHz is at least is achievable at stock. This is a 10-15% clock boost without doing much. That should easily take it to TitanX level.

Once we get software that unlocks voltage I can see the core getting to 1250MHz + quite easily judging by how the 290X does with overclocking. I don't see the HBM holding back the gpu core even if it is new tech.

Roughly going by what Gibbo has said when comparing to the G1, compared to a reference 980Ti and TITAN X I would say that at 1150 core a Fury X will be a good margin ahead. Using the G1 as a comparative spells well for this cards performance.
 
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