AMD FX-9000 - FX-8770 CPU's.

[Hagar]

My piledriver at 4.6GHz eight workers under prime draws 250-260w at the wall at 1.48V. Add a 6950 benching heaven 2.5 and it is 360w.

I could imagine 450w+ at 5GHz on any six to eight core processor. Thats why people buy 750w - kilowatt PSU's.

 

[bulldog147]

my i7 2700k sitting nicely @ 4.7GHz @ 1.30v with max temp 66C (summer time) as I don't need more than 4.7GHz.

 

[mmj_uk]

My 3930K draws over 500W when overclocked, mileages vary due to volts.

From memory mine slurps on around 520W at 4.7GHZ @ 1.45-1.48V

Skies the limit at 5GHZ @ 1.56V

It will only draw under 190W at default volts and clocks.

I was talking about TDP which is the amount of heat needed to be dissipated by the cooling, the 3930K has a stock TDP of 130W and will go up to around 200W TDP overclocked to ~4.6ghz on a sensible voltage, which means an overclocked 3930K already runs cooler than either of these processors.

My main concern is that the (supposedly) 125W TDP FX8350 already struggled to run things like Prime95 without breaching AMD's recommended temperature threshold. Perhaps these chips will ship without a heatspreader? by the sound of it they are not going to be cheap so AMD probably won't be too worried about amateurs chrushing the core.

 

[Hagar]

I was talking about TDP which is the amount of heat needed to be dissipated by the cooling, the 3930K has a stock TDP of 130W and will go up to around 200W TDP overclocked to ~4.6ghz on a sensible voltage, which means an overclocked 3930K already runs cooler than either of these processors.

My main concern is that the (supposedly) 125W TDP FX8350 already struggled to run things like Prime95 without breaching AMD's recommended temperature threshold. Perhaps these chips will ship without a heatspreader? by the sound of it they are not going to be cheap so AMD probably won't be too worried about amateurs chrushing the core.

Not at stock, it primes at about 50C. Problems with MSI VRM chips though on some lower end boards.

I would love CPU's without a heatspreader. Have had many and not crushed a core yet

 

[V F]

It's a metallic dark grey colour, wrapping is cheaper than a respray and can be removed.

What complications is there on a really hot day sitting in the sun for hours?

 

[Cyber-Mav]

So this 5ghz amd is equivalent to a 2.8ghz haswell, with over double the power consumption, guess amd ddidnt get the memo about the GHz race being over.

 

[Zeed]

Cyber-Mav GHZ racfe is never over but you need IPS to go with them hertz.
And sadly AMD is farrrrrrr FARRRRR behind intel on IPS

Image if it would be 1:! as sandy. That would be very nice cpu !!!!

 

[Azarathal]

At least the heat from this will be manageable unlike ivy/haswell where it's trapped under the ihs

 

[tres_kun]

Let us face it
If you are in a cold place
You can get one of those and skip on a heater
Best space economy ever

 

[Besty]

I was talking about TDP which is the amount of heat needed to be dissipated by the cooling, the 3930K has a stock TDP of 130W and will go up to around 200W TDP overclocked to ~4.6ghz on a sensible voltage, which means an overclocked 3930K already runs cooler than either of these processors.

My main concern is that the (supposedly) 125W TDP FX8350 already struggled to run things like Prime95 without breaching AMD's recommended temperature threshold. Perhaps these chips will ship without a heatspreader? by the sound of it they are not going to be cheap so AMD probably won't be too worried about amateurs chrushing the core.

I understand Re:TDP but my point was, apples-for-apples if you take a 3930k and clock it to similar speeds as the FX-9000, it still draws enormous amounts of current, there should not be gasps of breath at the 220W TDP of the AMD chip as this is an OC forum, its a non-issue in comparison to the 3930k, you won't need to upgrade your Water cooling if you currently run a 4.7/5GHZ 3930k and want to switch.

 

[humbug]

I have a feeling its going to be a little more power efficient than the FX-8350.

I agree a 220 Watt TDP for a 5Ghz (sorry '4.8Ghz', Martini ) 8c 4m CPU is not that surprising or shocking.

Of course is depends on what the actual power draw is, TDP is no indication of power draw, if anything its an indication of cooling needed.

roll on reviews.

 

[MDPlatts]

Tongue in cheek re-writing of the AMD press statement from post on TechReport (http://techreport.com/news/24953/amd-reveals-base-clock-power-rating-for-5ghz-cpu?post=738850#738850)

NeelyCam

Continuing a long history of innovation, AMD announced today that they were the first to reach a critical CPU power envelope threshold. AMD CEO, Rory Read, was visibly pleased with his company's progress as he was announcing this new development.

"Through creative innovation and company-wide alignment, we have now achieved something our competitors can only dream of. We are proud to announce that our new, 8-core flagship FX-9590 has reached and surpassed the previously unattainable goal of 200W TDP. The demand for this new product is strong; the first large-scale server deployment contract in Northern Alaska will be announced early next week."

AMD is also planning to continue developing this new product line with annual refreshes. Said Read: "We have a clear roadmap for these products for the next three years. Our 2014 platform, codenamed Sauna and fabricated on a 32nm process, will reach 250W TDP. In 2015, we will release a 20nm refresh codenamed Nucular, that will increase TDP up to 30% or more - this will be available for Back-To-School season. Finally, by 2016 Holiday season, we will release a product codenamed Solara - a new architecture that takes TDP to unprecedented levels. More details about Solara will be announced at Computex 2014 - stay tuned!"

After trailing their main competitor, Intel, for years, it looks like AMD is back in the game. Intel has been slow at improving TDP lately; the new desktop Haswell CPUs were released with a disappointing 84W TDP. The recently announced Ivy Bridge E platform promises to improve TDP, but the new FX 9000-series products from AMD seem to have leapfrogged the competition. Intel representatives declined to comment on this story.

As always, I would wait for independent benchmarking results, but judging from the heat and excitement in AMD's demo room, this reporter has a feeling that AMD has finally nailed it - these new CPUs sure look HOT!

 

[Martini1991]

TDP is the heat measured in watts, it is the amount of cooling, however for it to produce X heat, it's going to be consuming power power than that.

 

[humbug]

NeelyCam

Continuing a long history of innovation, AMD announced today that they were the first to reach a critical CPU power envelope threshold. AMD CEO, Rory Read, was visibly pleased with his company's progress as he was announcing this new development.

"Through creative innovation and company-wide alignment, we have now achieved something our competitors can only dream of. We are proud to announce that our new, 8-core flagship FX-9590 has reached and surpassed the previously unattainable goal of 200W TDP. The demand for this new product is strong; the first large-scale server deployment contract in Northern Alaska will be announced early next week."

AMD is also planning to continue developing this new product line with annual refreshes. Said Read: "We have a clear roadmap for these products for the next three years. Our 2014 platform, codenamed Sauna and fabricated on a 32nm process, will reach 250W TDP. In 2015, we will release a 20nm refresh codenamed Nucular, that will increase TDP up to 30% or more - this will be available for Back-To-School season. Finally, by 2016 Holiday season, we will release a product codenamed Solara - a new architecture that takes TDP to unprecedented levels. More details about Solara will be announced at Computex 2014 - stay tuned!"

After trailing their main competitor, Intel, for years, it looks like AMD is back in the game. Intel has been slow at improving TDP lately; the new desktop Haswell CPUs were released with a disappointing 84W TDP. The recently announced Ivy Bridge E platform promises to improve TDP, but the new FX 9000-series products from AMD seem to have leapfrogged the competition. Intel representatives declined to comment on this story.

As always, I would wait for independent benchmarking results, but judging from the heat and excitement in AMD's demo room, this reporter has a feeling that AMD has finally nailed it - these new CPUs sure look HOT!

 

[Martini1991]

It's a 4.7GHZ CPU, not 4.8GHZ with a 5GHZ turbo.
The amount of FX8350's that can achieve this result just went up .
It'll just be cherry picked FX83's lol.

They may not also be released in the retail channel, so that's just killed pretty much any excitement?

 

[humbug]

It's a 4.7GHZ CPU, not 4.8GHZ with a 5GHZ turbo.
The amount of FX8350's that can achieve this result just went up .
It'll just be cherry picked FX83's lol.

They may not also be released in the retail channel, so that's just killed pretty much any excitement?

It's a 4.7GHZ CPU, not 4.8GHZ with a 5GHZ turbo.

Bah...

They may not also be released in the retail channel, so that's just killed pretty much any excitement?

Right, nothing to see here, move along.
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Stock vs 4.8Ghz power

A couple of other notes. First, remember that we measured peak power draw for the stock-clocked FX-8350 system at 196W in x264 encoding. The overclocked and overvolted config tested above peaked at about 262W

 

[Martini1991]

AMD are the kings of hype and disappointment

 

[humbug]

AMD are the kings of hype and disappointment

At the moment i think the same can be said for Intel and their CPU's as well.

Great IPC full stop, but only marginal few % improvements over the last couple of generations + added heat issues.

And as for Nvidia....

 

[Martini1991]

I agree with Haswell from a Desktop standpoint, although Intel have always maintained that Haswell was focused on the mobile area Laptops, where it's pretty much not a disappointment, the doubling of battery life and albeit minor performance improvements are far from a disappointment, so it's pretty successful from a laptop standpoint, where the heat problem doesn't exist since laptop chips don't have IHS's generally.

I think Intel have managed about 15% IPC gain over Sandy since 2011.

 

[humbug]

I agree with Haswell from a Desktop standpoint, although Intel have always maintained that Haswell was focused on the mobile area Laptops, where it's pretty much not a disappointment, the doubling of battery life and albeit minor performance improvements are far from a disappointment, so it's pretty successful from a laptop standpoint, where the heat problem doesn't exist since laptop chips don't have IHS's generally.

Its not meant to be derogatory, hey I run an Intel CPU to I have no problem with them.

I just think the whole enthusiast Desktop industry of late is a disappointment.
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Its more like 10%, about 3% Ivy and 7% Haswell.