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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Gregster, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. scubes

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    I think the better the tec the more price will be no matter if it’s amd or nvidia they are a business they think of profit and 2nd the customers .
     
  2. scubes

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    I think nvidia are far ahead of amd TBH now they will reap the benefits no matter what.
     
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  3. 4K8KW10

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    You must pay because you want capitalism and this is 100% capitalism in action - there is nothing social in S|A, even discussion boards do not exist. :D
     
  4. melmac

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    I presume this is Sarcasm?
     
  5. 4K8KW10

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    I presume it is not. Who told us the truth about hot and unmanufacturable Fermi, who told us the truth about intel not being able to produce things on N10 node?

    Nvidia’s Fermi GTX480 is broken and unfixable
    https://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/

    Intel kills off the 10nm process
    https://semiaccurate.com/2018/10/22/intel-kills-off-the-10nm-process/

    Why SemiAccurate called 10nm wrong
    https://semiaccurate.com/2019/01/25/why-semiaccurate-called-10nm-wrong/
     
  6. Rroff

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    Only Fermi wasn't unfixable and broken at least not to the degree he was implying - sure there were some issues with power and thermals but nothing like as bad as he was claiming.

    Yet nVidia managed to get the GTX480 out the door, commercially viable albeit only just, in early 2010...

    If you've been following this as long as I have you'd know Charlie has only been right about half the time and often wrong because he allows a dislike of nVidia to blind him.
     
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  7. JediFragger

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    Agreed. If he allowed himself to be more subjective he'd have a higher success rate no doubt!
     
  8. Rroff

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    Yeah to be fair a lot of his stuff came from actual legit sources but the spin he'd put on it or the way he'd interpret it distorted the truth.
     
  9. Rroff

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    nVidia is not dumping, or paring back, RT cores any time soon.
     
  10. 4K8KW10

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    Technically, Charlie was right about GF100. It was launched as late as third revision of the chip A3 and never got a fix.
    Later, nvidia had to release Fermi 2.0, GF110 which had less transistors and smaller die area.

    But we all know how it all went, with all the memes of the grill Fermi.
     
  11. Grim5

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    Panos = Charlie ?
     
  12. Panos

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    Lol :D
     
  13. 4K8KW10

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  14. KungFuSpaghetti

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    Art that die size and on 7nm vs 12nm if this doesn't totally obliterate the rtx 2080ti then it's a huge fail.

    Still think AMD will manage to s*** the bed on this one and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
     
  15. Jay85

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    CES is next week, i hope we see some navi 21 sneak peaks...:o
     
  16. 4K8KW10

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    There is still room to make it bigger - Fiji was 596 mm^2.

    21 B transistors is only 12.9% more transistors than the 18.6 B transistors in RTX 2080 Ti.

    So, this would be almost like an optical shrink of TU102.

    21 B transistors is really disturbing, unless AMD found a way to increase the performance out of these transistors.
     
  17. b00merang69

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    Even a fool spouting enough BS will be right some of the time.
     
  18. 4K8KW10

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    It is quite rude to try to discredit people all the time because they don't share your interests. It's foolish by you!
     
  19. b00merang69

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    Say that again in English (the last part especially)! :confused:
     
  20. JediFragger

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    He says you're an idiot.