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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Gregster, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. Dicehunter

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    Indeed, The only game I'm having issues with on a 5700XT I'm testing is Ghost Recon Breakpoint, Makes the driver crash, Other than that no issues.
     
  2. LoadsaMoney

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    Yes, as they are now starting to fix them. :D
     
  3. shankly1985

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    Just like with any big software release :p hell you can even put games under this for example how much they get patched these days.

    Few more driver releases and everything will be fixed and back on track. :D
     
  4. shankly1985

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    People are so fast to jump on any little issue that comes from AMD and drivers.
    One bug the whole driver is broken lol
     
  5. BigBANGtheory

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    Good to hear, can you ask them when we might hear some alleviation to our high-end pain
     
  6. shankly1985

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    Lisa Su on a YouTube video other day said high end navi will be coming 2020 what month though remains to be seen.
     
  7. Dicehunter

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    Generally AMD drivers are as stable as Nvidia drivers from my own experience but the instability I have seen is with 1 Ubisoft title and I'd put that more down to it being an Ubisoft title than anything else :D
     
  8. JediFragger

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    It's AMD, 31st December ;)

    In all seriousness I can see it coming late-on tbh, they probably won't want to 'one-up' the console RT tech too soon or something.
     
  9. shankly1985

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    I think July and August for big Navi
    I think they be two high-end SKUs 5800 and an XT or they might name them 6000 series
     
  10. BigBANGtheory

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    personally I think sooner because unless it radically undercuts Nvidia those asked to pay above £500 will pay more for more perf... Bottom line is AMD like it or not need to come in with above 2080Ti perf for below 2080 prices long before Nvidia get Ampere out the door otherwise they are dead on arrival... again.
     
  11. EastCoastHandle

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    From what I understood so far Nav10 is some sort of hybrid between RDN + GCN. With Big Navi the Uarch is going to be completely different. I've not found any rumors as to how it will be different other then it's RDNA2.
     
  12. Jacky60

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    Too true, if they delay until July/August then they'll get smoked by Nvidia as usual. Their window to launch is next three months but I suspect they'll sit on their hands until it's too late as usual then release their 'me too' card a little cheaper and a bit slower than the competition in the way we've come to expect.
     
  13. JediFragger

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    Don't! You'll hurt their feelings while they're rolling around in all the money they make :p :D
     
  14. markoboyo11

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    If AMD were a bit more ruthless they should not make their new RT features open source and lock people in.
    If developers are coding rt features for the consoles on amd and they only work on amd graphics cards, developers wont get the best out of recoding them for nvidia gpus so would be a massive win for amd.
     
  15. Jacky60

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    Now that would be a very sensible idea. Developers won't jump through hoops to code RT for Nvidia if most of the market is using AMD hardware. I'm sure they'd make a cursory effort but they won't spend a huge amount of time and money on it. Nvidia would then have to carry the additional costs.
     
  16. Rroff

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    There is al ready a standard with DXR that can be fully accelerated with RTX and the standard Vulkan RT extensions work with RTX so that would probably back fire on them at this point.
     
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  17. queamin

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    I agree with this and people cannot rag on Nvidia and not on Amd if Amd do the same.
     
  18. FoxEye

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    Besides, the consumer always loses when stuff like that happens.
     
  19. viathinair

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    I would LOVE that - make it run like **** on Nvidia cards...oops, it sort of already does :D

    BTW, I'm mostly an Nvidia buyer :p
     
  20. markoboyo11

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    Short term maybe but it could give amd a massive boost in market share, then we all win.