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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Gregster, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. melmac

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    So, basically you jumped into the conversation just to bash Nvidia.

    Even @LoadsaMoney got the point I was making, even though I misunderstood him initially.

    I'll just leave Martini's post here, it seems as good as reply as any.

     
  2. humbug

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    They are quite common, any game that uses Real Time Reflections for example, that's most driving games where the paint reflects the scenery, the Grid games, the Dirt Games, Forza and so on....

    The other form of Ray Tracing is Voxel-Based Global Illumination, the earliest game that i'm aware of using that was Dirt Showdown.
     
  3. Grim5

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    AMD is generally all about that open source.

    tgey won't be using some custom api, it will be DX DXR just everything else because it's open source and free
     
  4. BigBANGtheory

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    In console development
     
  5. LoadsaMoney

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    Yep :)
     
  6. Rock_n_Roll

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  7. humbug

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  8. CAT-THE-FIFTH

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    AMD will need to get any big Navi out at least a few months before Ampere IMHO,otherwise I can't see how it will gain any traction.
     
  9. Grim5

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    Correct. AMD fans will of course still buy it - but we know they make up a small portion of the total market
     
  10. Troezar

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    Let's face it AMD will be playing catch-up for a while yet even if they are pumping a lot of extra money in right now. Probably 7000 series by then. I'm looking forward to more competition and saner prices. A 2080Ti+ performance AMD card would be great but I'd expect it to be more than I'd be prepared to pay.
     
  11. JediFragger

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    Agreed. 56/60 CU's sure I can see that (and it'll be fast as hell), 80 is a massive jump!
     
  12. 4K8KW10

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    56 compute units would be roughly enough to equal the performance of RTX 2080 Ti that was released in September 2018.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. JediFragger

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    ignore.
     
  14. sideways14a

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    80 RDNA2 CU would be a monster.
     
  15. AMDPower

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    still not enough if ampere comes in as nvidia promised 50% faster than 2080ti. I would wager that AMD will close the gap this time round
    to possibly within 10-15% but I doubt it would be faster than Ampere or as efficient. I really hope I am wrong and AMD pull a Ryzen on Nvidia as they did on Intel.
     
  16. 4K8KW10

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    I expect a RTX 3080 to be no more than 10-20% faster than RTX 2080 Ti, while RTX 3080 Ti not released until many months later.
     
  17. TNA

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    3080 will be no less than 25% better than a 2080Ti imo. Will have more tha double RT grunt too I predict.
     
  18. JediFragger

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    yup I reckon they'll be going all-in with RT on this round, not so much on traditional rastering. It'd be nice if the RT cores could be more flexible though too as AMD touted, that they could do either for pure fps when needed :)
     
  19. Poneros

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    Oh man, I wanna be so hyped for a big navi card too, but after seeing AMD trip over themselves in launching even a low-mid range card (5600 XT), it's hard to have much faith.

    One great thing about it is that it could turn out to be a repeat of GCN due to consoles. An easy buy & enjoy for the rest of the console generation as it ages better than a Turing/Ampere.

    Then again, maybe not.
     
  20. BigBANGtheory

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    Basically the sooner AMD can get big Navi out the more they can charge and sell. Every month that passes is closer to new consoles and Ampere...