Soldato
Ultra settings are just for epeen anyway. Most of the time the visual difference is only noticeable by analysing screen shots.
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Ultra settings are just for epeen anyway. Most of the time the visual difference is only noticeable by analysing screen shots.
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I always enjoy those Digital Foundry videos, "If you zoom in 10x you can see at ultra settings' that the edge of this shadow is a lot more diffuse than at lower settings". Brilliant, that shadow that I ran past at top speed to avoid a hail of bullets?
Soldato
Correct. There is not many games apart from exploring open worlds where you look around at slow pace. Even GoW and beautiful engines, you have to fight npc's or solve puzzles etc. so your taking in some quality just no need for ultra. If the gpu can handle the ultra and its still way above 60fps then by all means run it full crank.
Not sure where you've gotten that from, it's 4k/60 on series X. A quick Google search will confirm.
Will be interesting to see what GPU will be needed to match that performance and image quality.
Caporegime
This is why paid shills need to be called out for their shilling, some members quoted the same crap in here.
Soldato
what do you mean?This is why paid shills need to be called out for their shilling, some members quoted the same crap in here.
128 watts in game!? What?!
That seems crazy low to me... granted it was playing RDR2, but I expect despite being "last gen" that game should be stressing the console pretty well unless it's locked to the old framerates?
The tweet is refencing figures measured here btw https://tweakers.net/reviews/8252/3/xbox-series-x-onze-eerste-indrukken-en-tests-meten-is-weten.html
That seems crazy low to me... granted it was playing RDR2, but I expect despite being "last gen" that game should be stressing the console pretty well unless it's locked to the old framerates?
The tweet is refencing figures measured here btw https://tweakers.net/reviews/8252/3/xbox-series-x-onze-eerste-indrukken-en-tests-meten-is-weten.html
Soldato
it says 350w mate above your post
Yes mate, and the article linked with actual measurements says 128w while gaming which is what I was discussing. The cap Humbug took was from someone replying to the tweet with the 128w figure, I provided the actual article.
It seems ridiculously low, but was what they actually measured with a Series X in hand vs some random tweeter saying 300/350w. I was wondering if the game might have been frame capped being last gen, because it just seems incredibly low.
Look at the article I linked (just translate from german).
Caporegime
lol, can't tell if serious
I don't know why people keep speculating about the Series X power consumption, its been known long before Digital Foundry published their quite obviously nonsense content on it.
It has a 200 Watt TDP, 180 Watts falls right in line with that.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/xbox-series-x-gpu.c3482
Who do you believe? Microsoft and TPU or Nvidia paid content?
Caporegime
In any case take off 30 Watts for the CPU you're looking at about 150 Watts for a 2080 Super <> 2080TI level GPU.
My 2070 Super is 225 Watts.
5700XT is also 225 Watts
My 2070 Super is 225 Watts.
5700XT is also 225 Watts
Soldato
I'd prefer ultra settings in a game I've paid for, so for me a major thing. I've been playing Cold War at 1440p and the difference between that and 4k is pronounced, but so is the performance dip with terrible memory leakage imho on the 5700xt at the minute, it's a beta but for me, I want the best visuals beings as a PC costs thousands of pounds.
Soldato
On series X it will run at 4k/30 unless a specific series X optimisation gets released. So it wouldn't have been stressing the series X that much, it would be like running rdr2 on a PC with a 3700x and 2080s at console settings capped at 30fps. I bet the GPU wouldn't be running much over 50%, and CPU at 20% or so.
Caporegime
8GB is not enough to run Doom Eternal on Ultra settings, this is how Digital Foundry got Nvidia's claimed 2X the performance over the 2080, the 2080's 8GB buffer was over saturated which dragged down its performance.
See this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csSmiaR3RVE&feature=youtu.be&t=746
Digital Foundry, their content is not to be trusted.
Hardware Unboxed picked up on this when Digital Foundry made a review of the 3080 before the official NDA lift, Doom Eternal was also featured in Nvidia's performance slides.
It did lead to people thinking the 3080 was going to be twice as fast as the 2080, Jensen made similar claims in his kitchen on that day. A lot of people on the internet used it as a performance measure comparatively to the 2080 and 2080TI.
Long story short Hardware Unboxed reiterated his findings in the RTX 3080 review.
That is with the settings Digital Foundry used Doom Eternal would use 9GB of VRam, the RTX 2080 only has 8GB, this would cause the 2080 to choke on that lack of VRam and the performance is a lot less compared with the 3080 than it is with reduced Texture Quality setting that use only 7GB of VRam
4K Ultra Nightmare (9GB)
2080 88 FPS (100%)
2080TI 140 FPS (159%)
3080 189 (215%)
4K Ultra Nightmare, Ultra Textures (7GB)
2080 111 FPS (100%)
2080TI 140 FPS (126%)
3080 189 (170%)
To be clear, with reduced texture quality settings the 2080TI and 3080 are identical in performance, the only change is the 2080, the 11GB 2080TI was 59% faster and that changed to 26%, the 10GB 3080 was 115% faster, that changed to 70% faster.
https://youtu.be/csSmiaR3RVE?t=746
Soldato
What have i missed, when did DF say the series x would use 300w?
Soldato
Yep, when I go 4k on Cold War, it just stutteres every 10 seconds, drive me insane and had to drop the res to 1440, so annoying really but yeah, agreed 8GB is just not enough YET in BF5, runs incredibly well at 4k at 90+fps... really weird... however yeah, I think anyone with anythign less than 11GB for absolute 4k gaming isn't going to work so that for me rulled out the 3080... hence why I'll wait for the big N for me, as it'll have all the memory I'll ever need for 4k and below PLUS the power to use it. win win... bring it on
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