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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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2000-2100MHz "Game Clock" I can buy - it is about inline with realistic estimates but 2.3-2.5GHz sustained clocks as some were claiming not so much - while you can't directly compare between different architectures as that has a huge impact on frequency even with the 5000 series CPUs they are only around 5-6% frequency improvements and that is probably a guide to the kind of order of magnitude they are seeing on the GPU side as well - slight caveat there is we don't know how efficient (although it is roughly inline with nVidia) their frequency efficiency is in the first place and by all reports they pulled people over from the Zen side to refine the architecture in respect to how it performed on the silicon so might see bigger improvements there if they've gone from a little bit subpar for how much frequency they could wring out to actually getting a good amount out of the potential.
 
More leaks needed to put more coal on the hype train furnace yet. Choo choo still tanking along at normal speed right now.

The train has already arrived at its destination (driver and conductor are already booked into a Premier Inn and abusing the 'free' WiFi), but it wasn't fully occupied and there's a large crowd making their way on foot to the final station. They should arrive there by 5pm on 28/10. They missed the train at the previous stop because they underestimated its speed and didn't realise how far ahead it was.
 
The train has already arrived at its destination (driver and conductor are already booked into a Premier Inn and abusing the 'free' WiFi), but it wasn't fully occupied and there's a large crowd making their way on foot to the final station. They should arrive there by 5pm on 28/10. They missed the train at the previous stop because they underestimated its speed and didn't realise how far ahead it was.

:D I heard its a hybrid electric train now much more power efficient.
 
290W TGP means 330W+ TDP for the board.

For comparison. Reference 5700XT is 180W TGP and 225W TDP for the board.
Tgp seems to be a Nvidia specific terminology which is equivalent to AMDs TBP (as per Nvidia).. Patrick in another tweet confirmed that tgp (as provided by him) is power dissipated by GPU + mem without factoring regulation efficiency.
 
Tgp seems to be a Nvidia specific terminology which is equivalent to AMDs TBP (as per Nvidia).. Patrick in another tweet confirmed that tgp (as provided by him) is power dissipated by GPU + mem without factoring regulation efficiency.

AMD via software only reports the power used by the actual GPU chip. That is also what the power limit controls. That is the difference. Nvidia power limits control the entire board power and that is what is reported to software.

Also explained here at the 2 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ga-zlFTB0E

It is likely that only the chip power has been leaked as that gets reported by software.
 
AMD via software only reports the power used by the actual GPU chip. That is also what the power limit controls. That is the difference. Nvidia power limits control the entire board power.

Also explained here at the 2 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ga-zlFTB0E

It is likely that only the chip power has been leaked as that gets reported by software.

Which is what I'm guessing the 230 and 250 entries in the firmware related stuff refer to. But could be wrong as very little information on that.
 
AMD via software only reports the power used by the actual GPU chip. That is also what the power limit controls. That is the difference. Nvidia power limits control the entire board power and that is what is reported to software.

Also explained here at the 2 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ga-zlFTB0E

It is likely that only the chip power has been leaked as that gets reported by software.

You might like to see this.. as there is no industry standard for these terms they have to be taken in context

https://mobile.twitter.com/patrickschur_/status/1317847566659223552
 
You might like to see this.. as there is no industry standard for these terms they have to be taken in context

https://mobile.twitter.com/patrickschur_/status/1317847566659223552

https://mobile.twitter.com/ElGamerAustral/status/1317860832697516032/photo/1

This image is even more confusing. Official TDP of the 5700 XT is 225W. It is almost flipped in that table.

180W is what something like GPU-Z would see.

Anyway there are still fans and VRM efficiency losses to add.

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I'd probably just go off this then and add 50W for TBP.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ElGamerAustral/status/1317868163292385280/photo/1

If they are pushing 2.4ghz now, then will need to add to those numbers.
 
You start with a twitter post and suddenly there's videos and articles padding the ever loving **** out of the twitter post to add "value" so they can ship it as content.

Think this post contains more words than the source material.
 
The 5nm version, RDNA3, should be MCM so we'll be in for another major change

A die shrink of RDNA2 is low risk. I'd be amazed if they don't try it.

There is no guarantee MCM would be any good. So we'll have to see. The first gen Ryzen for example has a lot of problems which have all finally been fixed with Zen 3.
 
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