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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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muon said:
For the record I hope I am wrong. For the same price/perf I always have historically bought AMD. Haven't had an Intel chip since Ryzen came out.
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LOL I'm just skimming the old 6900 series thread - even after the news broke of the actual specs posters of a certain persuasion were desperately hanging on to there being some magic switch on the board that unlocked the full 1920 SPs.

Sadly these days I have zero sources for AMD stuff so I can only sit on the fence really.
 
zx128k said:
AMD now have 80CU's and a core frequency far higher (@ 2.1-.24GHz). If true the 6900xt card could be a beast.
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Dont know if you had the opportunity to see the Ryzen 5000 launch..
I had thought they showed a 64 CU card, with news that came in today 80 CU is looking less of a beast than i thought it'd be..
especially if they are hinting at it being some kind of showcase with low availability
(but still a good product)
be interested in how the pricing strategy develops..
 
Nablaoperator said:
Dont know if you had the opportunity to see the Ryzen 5000 launch..
I had thought they showed a 64 CU card, with news that came in today 80 CU is looking less of a beast than i thought it'd be..
especially if they are hinting at it being some kind of showcase with low availability
(but still a good product)
be interested in how the pricing strategy develops..
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I got a pre-order going for the RTX 3080 because I thought that they would not be that good. If they are then prices have to drop.
 
Nablaoperator said:
Dont know if you had the opportunity to see the Ryzen 5000 launch..
I had thought they showed a 64 CU card, with news that came in today 80 CU is looking less of a beast than i thought it'd be..
especially if they are hinting at it being some kind of showcase with low availability
(but still a good product)
be interested in how the pricing strategy develops..
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They might charge slightly higher. IE: another $50 higher (or so) then the original 5700xt for the 6700xt if that's the replacement card. Just like they did from Zen 2 to Zen 3.
In other words slightly higher then then before. However, since they have not had a high end card that competed against the competition's high end in a few generations I'm not sure what could be the reference point. As I don't really count the R7.

I can only hope they undercut the competition.
 
The main thing i am taking as a positive is AMD are going to be back in the game finally, as if you take the low end of the predictions it's decent and if it's the high end well it's probably an outright win. Any where in between is still decent to what's gone before it these last years.
 


AMD Radeon RX 6000 series specifications have been known to us since Monday. This week AMD provided a lot of details to AIBs, including new (working) drivers, final SKU names, and so on. We have been able to cross-check parts of the specs and we feel confident that these are more or less final.

AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT – Navi 21 XTX
AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT – Navi 21 XT
AMD Radeon RX 6800 – Navi 21 XL
AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT and 6700 – Navi 22
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https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6900xt-to-feature-navi-21-xtx-gpu-with-80-cus

AMD Navi 21 with boost clock up to 2577 MHz?
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rad...ard-allegedly-features-a-2577-mhz-boost-clock
 
Nablaoperator said:
Dont know if you had the opportunity to see the Ryzen 5000 launch..
I had thought they showed a 64 CU card, with news that came in today 80 CU is looking less of a beast than i thought it'd be..
especially if they are hinting at it being some kind of showcase with low availability
(but still a good product)
be interested in how the pricing strategy develops..
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AMD-Radeon-RX-6000-Series_Big-Navi-GPU_Graphics-Card_2-1030x579.png

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7581...-on-next-gen-amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt/index.html

Edit: Copied and pasted wrong image. Was reading some fake slides article and copied that image by mistake. Article was on tweak town
 
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muon said:
Where did you get that? Unless AMD have cherrypicked that puts it close to 3080.

See relative performance:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080-ti.c3305

RTX 3080 is $699? AMD I reckon will go $649.

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It's fake - link is to https://www.tweaktown.com/images/news/7/3/73241_03_ yeah-those-amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt-big-navi-leaks-were-fake_full.jpg

The red columns is probably RTX 3080's itself performance because lines up ideally with your 32% uplift link..

 
muon said:
RTX 3080 is $699? AMD I reckon will go $649.
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I will say 599 or 550 even..
i had earlier estimated the RT performance of 80 CU to be 30-60% slower than RTX3080
Lets see.. being hopeful

Edit: prices suggested for 72 CU.. 80 CUs are supposed to be as rare as unicorns (going by latest leaks)
 
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Nablaoperator said:
I will say 599 or 550 even..
i had earlier estimated the RT performance of 80 CU to be 30-60% slower than RTX3080
Lets see.. being hopeful
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Well now that that very favourable chart I know is fake. I'm back to thinking it won't match the 3080. Therefore yes, they would have to price it below $600.
 
five8five said:
Boxes are much smaller and lighter, many many more per pallet. Not been paying attention but a much higher price as well?
It must cost effective for Apple to do that. Some Ampere cards have been air-freighted in but it is supposed to be quite expensive to do.
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Air freight is expensive but what we are discussing is availability. Logistically you can have good availability and do air freighting as proven by Apple. I never said it was cheap.

It also opens up other options for example the intial few weeks are done via air freighting while stuff on the water is still coming over. Then fulfill back orders with stuff that was shipped.
There are many ways for AMD to organise shipping, and not have wait times that stretch out to Q1 2021.

My point is that we can't use shipping dates/method to determine if AMD will have "good" availability.
 
muon said:
Well now that that very favourable chart I know is fake. I'm back to thinking it won't match the 3080. Therefore yes, they would have to price it below $600.
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I am hopeful it would be there (and the 72CU will be probably in striking distance of 3080 maybe 5 to 10%slower).. i just had very high expectations of the 80 CU (i had earlier thought it would leave 3090 in dust) before todays news..
Both are good products irrespective of my expectations being tempered due to recent newsflow
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
Air freight is expensive but what we are discussing is availability. Logistically you can have good availability and do air freighting as proven by Apple. I never said it was cheap.

It also opens up other options for example the intial few weeks are done via air freighting while stuff on the water is still coming over. Then fulfill back orders with stuff that was shipped.
There are many ways for AMD to organise shipping, and not have wait times that stretch out to Q1 2021.

My point is that we can't use shipping dates/method to determine if AMD will have "good" availability.
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I wonder if air freight prices have come down at all - I have a couple of 737 pilots on my YT subscriptions who've been talking about how their companies are moving more resources that way to make up for loss of passenger income and they've been picking up extra freight hours to get by.

EDIT: Nope pulled up the data rates have gone up 4-10% over the last few weeks - though looks like that is lower than they were at the peak of the initial outbreak.
 
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