AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

EastCoastHandle · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:25

Who has the game and can go to that area of the map? I'm curious to know if it is RT'd or not.

humbug · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:28

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EastCoastHandle said:
It looks like the Radeon Event Studio

Boader Lands 3 gets RT

4K8KW10 · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:33

humbug said:
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Boader Lands 3 gets RT

Time to plan an upgrade - going back to the red team

EastCoastHandle · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:36

humbug said:
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Boader Lands 3 gets RT

Yeah, just looked at a regular version myself. This is mapped at the very beginning of the game. GI does look different from the standard version. And the blue sphere on the right does look better in the AMD Presentation.
Wow!!

Soapysage · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:38

EastCoastHandle said:
Yeah, just looked at a regular version myself. This is mapped at the very beginning of the game. GI does look different from the standard version. And the blue sphere on the right does look better in the AMD Presentation.
Wow!!

Actually yeah when I look at some details it does look like it has RT of some sort

Dnyeee · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:39

Man I'd love to get an AMD card if only they were supported in offline 3D renderers

seph_88 · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:41

Wrinkly said:
I'm not a fanboy, but I do have a 3080 on order. The reason being that it doesn't look like AMD can touch Nvidia in RT. I'd love to be wrong here and cancel my order in favour of an AMD card as I prefer AMD as a company.

I totally get that, since normally AMD hype their cards way too much, which then the hype proceeds to overshoot their actual performance. I really do want AMD to do well here though, but a part of me is thinking that they've messed this up before.

We all actually need AMD to do well here since Nvidia have essentially hiked up the price tiers of their cards with the one above, through clever marketing. They're basically releasing their 2080 cards at 2080Ti pricing, this being the 3090. Hopefully AMD can bring some form of normalisation in price to the graphics card arena.

Rroff · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:46

thenewoc said:
Back when NV announced the 3000 series I seem to remember AMD's response being they were looking at revising the power draw on the 6000 series, presumably down as they didn't need to clock the nuts off their's to compete. However, if NV counter AMD's release with something between 3080 and 3090 I suspect AMD would release a 6800 XTX with a revised firmware unlocking more power and higher oc's.

If so it will be interesting if you could get hold of an XTX firmware and flash it to an XT.

Choo Choo

I'd imagine it is more like AMD was wary of nVidia's power efficiency after what they got from 16nm and 12FF and aimed at power efficient 7nm design - then when they found out how power hungry 8nm cards were they were like if nVidia can do it MAX ALL THE THINGS!!! hence the conflicting reports about power/frequency from AIBs and the comments about AMD deciding to push out the boat.

danlightbulb · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:54

If the top card is AMD edition only, will it be sold via normal retailers (eg here) or only sold direct?

gpuerrilla · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:56

danlightbulb said:
If the top card is AMD edition only, will it be sold via normal retailers (eg here) or only sold direct?

Good question, Im not sure but I imagine those that can remember or bought the Lisa Su edition of the 5700XT would be able to tell us.

Twinz · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:58

seph_88 said:
We all actually need AMD to do well here since Nvidia have essentially hiked up the price tiers of their cards with the one above, through clever marketing. They're basically releasing their 2080 cards at 2080Ti pricing, this being the 3090. Hopefully AMD can bring some form of normalisation in price to the graphics card arena.

WTF?

A card that's ~30% faster than last gen's XX80Ti for a LOT less money. (RTX 3080) You can take out a crayon and scribble "low tier", "entry level" "XX30 class" "small e-peen" or whatever on the box....and I will buy that card. Not because of "clever marketing", but because the performance is worth the money.

-Same goes for AMD. I just want to know how fast it is and how much it costs. Sing, dance, release a million doves into flight and launch confetti...I. Don't. Care.

How fast?

How much?

Slinky69 · 21 Oct 2020 at 20:59

Soapysage said:
Actually yeah when I look at some details it does look like it has RT of some sort

gpuerrilla · 21 Oct 2020 at 21:04

Twinz said:
How fast?

How much?

For one of the cards that was shown at the ryzen launch, we know its trading blows with the 3080, pretty confident on that and if anything with tweaks should gain a few more % by time its being delivered. The next question, Im hoping its cheaper than the 3080 stock price of £649 and would be great if it can be had for any number in the £5xx's.

Gerard · 21 Oct 2020 at 21:11

Th0nt said:
Good question, Im not sure but I imagine those that can remember or bought the Lisa Su edition of the 5700XT would be able to tell us.

The su edition was also available on uk etailers.

gpuerrilla · 21 Oct 2020 at 21:24

Gerard said:
The su edition was also available on uk etailers.

\o/ hoping this is same then.

Wonderbadger · 21 Oct 2020 at 21:28

I don't want to board a hype train but the rumours are tempting me to get a ticket.
If AMD can get the launch right, be in the ballpark of the 3080 for around the same price and have reasonable availability then I'm in. I'm bored of playing nvidias catch me if you can game with the 3080 and their manipulation of the market I have a reasonable queue position but happy to cancel after no deliveries of that card since launch.
It will be interesting to see what happens to 3080 pre-orders if AMD get it right.

doody · 21 Oct 2020 at 21:47

Wonderbadger said:
I don't want to board a hype train but the rumours are tempting me to get a ticket.
If AMD can get the launch right, be in the ballpark of the 3080 for around the same price and have reasonable availability then I'm in. I'm bored of playing nvidias catch me if you can game with the 3080 and their manipulation of the market I have a reasonable queue position but happy to cancel after no deliveries of that card since launch.
It will be interesting to see what happens to 3080 pre-orders if AMD get it right.

Ive got 1 foot on the hype train

gpuerrilla · 21 Oct 2020 at 21:49

Anyone seen @humbug as last time I seen him he was swigging glug and probably left it driver less having too much fun?

Bergkamp · 21 Oct 2020 at 21:51

Wonderbadger said:
I don't want to board a hype train but the rumours are tempting me to get a ticket.
If AMD can get the launch right, be in the ballpark of the 3080 for around the same price and have reasonable availability then I'm in. I'm bored of playing nvidias catch me if you can game with the 3080 and their manipulation of the market I have a reasonable queue position but happy to cancel after no deliveries of that card since launch.
It will be interesting to see what happens to 3080 pre-orders if AMD get it right.

If you're tired of NVidia's manipulation of the market then shouldn't you be hoping AMD can compete for cheaper, otherwise you'll still be dancing to NVidia's tune.

gpuerrilla · 21 Oct 2020 at 22:06

Bergkamp said:
If you're tired of NVidia's manipulation of the market then shouldn't you be hoping AMD can compete for cheaper, otherwise you'll still be dancing to NVidia's tune.

Precisely, if people want AMD to be there just to make nvidia cards cheaper for them then it will never change. Either buy a console, or get AMD card if you want to hit nvidia where it hurts.