AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[TNA]

Agreed,and AMD has more ground to catchup than Nvidia,ie,not only power effiency,also RT performance,etc.

What we all want is solidly performing AMD GPUs,at a reasonably price. Releases such as the HD4870 or even HD5870 didn't beat Nvidia,but they were good GPUs.

Those were the days. I was exclusively AMD back then for many many years as they would provide 95% of the performance but offer it much cheaper. They lost their way after the 290X as far as I am concerned. Would love to see them make a comeback like they did with Ryzen.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Those were the days. I was exclusively AMD back then for many many years as they would provide 95% of the performance but offer it much cheaper. They lost their way after the 290X as far as I am concerned. Would love to see them make a comeback like they did with Ryzen.

AMD need to focus on a more limited range IMHO,but making that range as good as they can. Trying to fight Nvidia on all fronts means they can't deliver on what they can make!

 

[FoxEye]

Those were the days. I was exclusively AMD back then for many many years as they would provide 95% of the performance but offer it much cheaper. They lost their way after the 290X as far as I am concerned. Would love to see them make a comeback like they did with Ryzen.

Yeah the 5870 wasn't the last good card. We definitely praised and recommended the 7850. Even the 7950 and 7970 were sought-after cards (albeit expensive).

The 290 was the start of the bad times (awful, awful launch). The 390 for being rebrands. The Fury/X for being "meh", super expensive and inefficient/hot. The 400 series for being way underpowered. The 500 series for being more rebrands rebrands rebrands. Vega for being Fury Pt II.

In fact the 7000 series was the last time we had a proper top-to-bottom range update from AMD. Everything since has been mid-range one year, with the "next gen" being just two or three top-end* cards the following year. *But not top-end when compared to the competition, which always was far ahead.

 

[XeNoNF50]

I see owners of the 5600 XT can download faster VRAM https://twitter.com/Radeon/status/1257384645005651968

 

[Gerard]

I see owners of the 5600 XT can download faster VRAM https://twitter.com/Radeon/status/1257384645005651968

They can if its via a bios update

 

[BigBANGtheory]

I think most people mean it will kill Nvidia on price to performance rather than actually being faster. If Big Navi can match 2080ti performance and has Ray Tracing built in for £700 or so most people will be over the moon and Nvidia will be ‘dead’ or at least promoted into a proper refresh which maximises performance, not just the usual 20% faster but also 20% more expensive shtick they’ve been trotting out for years.

that would be true today but remember in 6months (for the sake of argument) Nvidia themselves will have a 3070 product, the later AMD are the more competitive they have to be to embarrass Nvidia on price performance

We don’t have that AMD product today or until late 2020 ergo Navi 2X will be competing with Ampere not Turing

 

[LePhuronn]

I’m concerned about production limits. Sony and MS will want a million units or more, potentially each so that really doesn’t leave much spare capacity for any PC Card.

This is why TSMC have different 7nm nodes all cross-compatible and AMD build their products on the most suitable set. The consoles are on TSMC's 7nm+ (the one with EUV), the Zen 3 chiplets and RDNA2 aren't (7nP? AMD aren't saying).

If there are any shortages it won't be from TSMC's manufacturing capability.

 

[shankly1985]

Unreal Engine 4 now natively supports PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7228....it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=tweaktown

 

[EastCoastHandle]

Unreal Engine 4 now natively supports PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7228....it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=tweaktown

Many eyes will be open when they read this link and play the next UE4 title with a high end amd card which will not beat a mid range nvidia card.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

We need to see the facts but it feels like RDNA2 has more to give than many give it credit

 

[Jacky60]

I really want to believe AMD can deliver again in the GPU space. 90% 2080TI performance for £350 works, I can't see anything like that happening but we need mainstream pricing on 60hz 60+fps 4K on new AAA PC titles Ultra 4xMSAA for under £700. That's quite a bit more than 2080ti can provide but it's where flagship cards should be to be keeping up with the timeline.

 

[dragonslayer]

^ problem is being withing 2080 ti performance isn't good enough they need to beat it by at least 50% because Nvidia have their next gen cards ready and it's absolutely pointless being within 20% of a 3? Year old card when the competition could potentially release their next gen within a few weeks/ months of your new card and destroy it making you a laughing stock like they have previously but I do hope rDNA 2 is good since this gen is a hybrid if I remember correctly?

 

[shankly1985]

Many eyes will be open when they read this link and play the next UE4 title with a high end amd card which will not beat a mid range nvidia card.

AMD has now performed just as well as Nvidia for a like for like GPU in Unreal. The days of Unreal doing better for Nvidia are long gone.

 

[EastCoastHandle]

AMD has now performed just as well as Nvidia for a like for like GPU in Unreal. The days of Unreal doing better for Nvidia are long gone.

Well I stand corrected then.
https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/9199/gears-benchmarked-1080p-1440p-4k/index4.html
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gears_of_war_5_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,6.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gears-5-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/4.html

I might consider UE games in the future.

 

[willhub]

I think both AMD and NV have to have cards out before deciding which way to go, it's so uncertain.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

I think both AMD and NV have to have cards out before deciding which way to go, it's so uncertain.

And that’s why imho Nvidia will release first to get one moe bite at the uncontested cherry, AMD will respond with promises and marketing, then we get consoles and around Christmas we start to see where things will land

 

[willhub]

And that’s why imho Nvidia will release first to get one moe bite at the uncontested cherry, AMD will respond with promises and marketing, then we get consoles and around Christmas we start to see where things will land

You'd think AMD would take the lead, as far as games that are on consoles? As all games on consoles that are also on PC will be a console -> PC port I assume.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

You'd think AMD would take the lead, as far as games that are on consoles? As all games on consoles that are also on PC will be a console -> PC port I assume.

Gears 5 is prob the best "PC Port" we have had in years

 

[melmac]

You'd think AMD would take the lead, as far as games that are on consoles? As all games on consoles that are also on PC will be a console -> PC port I assume.

Won't make a difference with the Xbox Series X at least. It's the first time that the Console and the PC are going to be using the same DirectX version which is DX 12 Ultimate.

 

[willhub]

Won't make a difference with the Xbox Series X at least. It's the first time that the Console and the PC are going to be using the same DirectX version which is DX 12 Ultimate.

Hopefully it may help games work well on PC and not be slower in terms of comparision to console.

Gears 5 is prob the best "PC Port" we have had in years

To be honest it looks nice, but there are better looking games which have less cost to performance than Gears 5.