Soldato
You wanted reasons why and i gave them to you.
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Just heard about these problems today - a little late to the party. There’s even people on the nvidia thread saying it’s not an issue. Hilarious.
He was on about a Titan...I never said it wasnt faster than a titan. There's nothing in it however. What i did say was that it wasnt much faster than a 780 and your chart shows that.
Yeah I've been following the Nvidia threads on and off for a while. The mindset of these people amazes me.
Two Nvidia generations in a row now have had catastrophic hardware issues yet it doesn't matter. The fans are still DESPERATE to buy one.
Yet AMD have a minor driver issue (now fixed) and people avoid it. AMD's upcoming RDDA2 cards need to be 100% perfect in every way because people are looking for the tiniest to avoid AMD.
Oh ok, 7% on your slides, that makes all the difference, i stand corrected.Nah.......
He was on about a Titan...
I know but the titan wasn't the only card it was up against. You want to know why the 290x didn't sell as well as it could have, well, there's the reasons! It's not all because of the og Titan.
It took a long time for the 290x to mature, and until then there were alternatives that were all better in some respect, and that's ignoring the original titan.
And it was slower and more power hungry. Don't look for a smoking gun because there isn't one. There's lots of little reasons, any one of those could be used to justify an alternative card over the 290x. But then that's what I said originally so? *shrug*
You're repeating the same nonsense reasoning the Nvidia fan base made at the time, using the reference design arguments as if they applied to AIB models.
AIB ones ran cool and quiet, it was a 290 Watt GPU, compared with 250 Watts of the 780TI, i had a Powercolor AIB version, PCS+ i think it was, it never got to 70c.
Be it because people were so gullible as to believe the heat nonsense spouted constantly by the Zealots of Leather Jacket Man even when applied wrongly to AIB versions or they already had Zero interest in AMD's GPU's to start with the 290X was comparable to the 780TI for much less money AMD lost market share to Nvidia because of it.
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work?Don't go throwing that one around, Polaris, Vega and Navi 1 all benefitted greatly from a not-insignificant undervolt to get them to "work"
I just ran a 290x and a 295x2 straight out the box on day one and all was well for me. Two of the best cards I ever owned actually tbh...back then if I can remember that far back correctly my biggest problem with 290x was how long it took for AIB cards to come out with custom coolers.
I’m sure it was a good couple of months for the better custom cooled cards come out. I tried the reference cooler out and hated the temps and noise keeped it till the next nvidia cards come out but was a easy upgrade due to the refrance design I wished I would have gotten the one u got might of keeped it longer
Hence the quotation marks around "work". We all know the past few AMD releases have been pushed past their efficiency sweet spot and have greatly benefitted from some tuning to bring the temps and the heat down (which has often resulted in a performance boost). I was just saying don't throw the Ampere is hot and hungry mud slinging around because the Nvidiots will just fire back with "but Vega but Navi but Polaris blah blah blah". Let's not stoop to their levelMy 5070XT works straight out the box?
Hence the quotation marks around "work". We all know the past few AMD releases have been pushed past their efficiency sweet spot and have greatly benefitted from some tuning to bring the temps and the heat down (which has often resulted in a performance boost). I was just saying don't throw the Ampere is hot and hungry mud slinging around because the Nvidiots will just fire back with "but Vega but Navi but Polaris blah blah blah". Let's not stoop to their level
I don't see AMD needing to go daft with 350W, but certainly they have some flexibility with their optics in pushing their midrange cards to about 270W and the flagship to 300W to get some oomph and still be a chunk under Ampere's draw.I am very curious where AMD is going to land power wise.
You're repeating the same nonsense reasoning the Nvidia fan base made at the time, using the reference design arguments as if they applied to AIB models.
You crack me up sometimes humbugLet them pay stupid money for their broken GPU's, stick to being 'atheist' and take quiet satisfaction in your smart thinking. Cults are gonna willingly bend over no matter what.
I stay out of those threads, they give me a migraine.