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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

I would be surprised to see the top end card be AMD first as opposed to Nvidia. Regardless, I don't expect significant performance differences between them. It will just come down to preference (as always). Hopefully AMD's flagship card will no longer OC like bull. I would so buy a Fury if they weren't so terribly stock.
 
it'd be a real kicker if the new cpu's are worth it and you can have an all AMD system :) They're doing a lot of good stuff at the moment so would be nice to see people smart enough to support companies heading in the right direction (as they end up paying off later) if they release good cards but I'm waiting to see how good the cards actually are as well.
 
it'd be a real kicker if the new cpu's are worth it and you can have an all AMD system :) They're doing a lot of good stuff at the moment so would be nice to see people smart enough to support companies heading in the right direction (as they end up paying off later) if they release good cards but I'm waiting to see how good the cards actually are as well.

My main concern for AI (now Polaris) and Zen was their ability to ship quantity of product, and without delays. I think the Samsung deal is huge on this front. Also really happy they're going to be supporting HDR with Polaris, rather than postponing it to '17. Adaptive synch over HDMI for LG, Samsung & Panasonic TVs (with presumably others to join) may be huge for them too ... and if Zen APUs with HBM can launch in '16 in volume, that's potentially a knockout blow for AMD in the laptop, media centre and HTPC markets.
 
TLDR AMD's new leadership and reorganisation is bearing immediate fruit. What was Arctic Islands has seen significant redesign and improvement recently, and become 'Polaris'. They will be out significantly ahead of NVIDIA. Architectural changes most significant move since VLIW4 to GCN. Charlie seems pretty bullish if not out right excited about it.

Surely AMD's new cards will have been design locked for months and months a long time?

When did they form Radeon Technologies Group? Google says September.

There is surely no way that any design changes were made since September, if the cards are due in the next two months. Does not compute.

e: architectural design changes, I mean. As opposed to "how many shaders shall we fuse off for this model".
 
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Yes Charlie said changes were made but not massive.

Certainly not "significant redesign and improvement". Although the person who wrote that mindlessly hypes up every little thing AMD do and poo-poos/doomsays everything Nvidia to the point of comedy. Don't waste time arguing tbh.
 
it'd be a real kicker if the new cpu's are worth it and you can have an all AMD system :) They're doing a lot of good stuff at the moment so would be nice to see people smart enough to support companies heading in the right direction (as they end up paying off later) if they release good cards but I'm waiting to see how good the cards actually are as well.

I always use AMD CPUs and alternate between Nvidia and AMD for GPU. Currently got a 980GTX but would also love it if these cards are worth upgrading for. Zen and along with these should make for a tidy system.
 
I always use AMD CPUs and alternate between Nvidia and AMD for GPU. Currently got a 980GTX but would also love it if these cards are worth upgrading for. Zen and along with these should make for a tidy system.

Last build was my first Intel CPU, and I still feel dirty. OK, actually it was my 2nd Intel, but the first was in a PC my parents bought me as a kid :p

It will be nice to go back to an AMD CPU, and then take a long, hard shower. The shame will always remain, I suspect.
 
Yes Charlie said changes were made but not massive.

Certainly not "significant redesign and improvement". Although the person who wrote that mindlessly hypes up every little thing AMD do and poo-poos/doomsays everything Nvidia to the point of comedy. Don't waste time arguing tbh.

As per usual you're trolling.

It's exactly what he said, just reminding people that given the time scales it's not as if it was a total redesign.

I suspect they made most of the changes after finishing Fiji and then analysing its performance and feedback from developers since it launched.
 
My main concern for AI (now Polaris) and Zen was their ability to ship quantity of product, and without delays. I think the Samsung deal is huge on this front. Also really happy they're going to be supporting HDR with Polaris, rather than postponing it to '17. Adaptive synch over HDMI for LG, Samsung & Panasonic TVs (with presumably others to join) may be huge for them too ... and if Zen APUs with HBM can launch in '16 in volume, that's potentially a knockout blow for AMD in the laptop, media centre and HTPC markets.

I would live to have an adaptive sync TV, main question is would it require a certain TV or not can this work with my old LG with just a firmware update ?
 
starting with what was once Greenland, the changes are quite real but there is only so much you can do to hardware in the time frames involved.

At least have the decency to quote his entire paragraph for context. You quote mined a small part (not even a complete sentence) to fit your agenda.

SemiAccurate said:
What was Catalyst is now Crimson, what was once Arctic Islands is now Polaris, and so on and so forth. This may sound like mere window dressing but it really isn’t, starting with what was once Greenland, the changes are quite real but there is only so much you can do to hardware in the time frames involved. That said AMD is going to make a big step forward.

I could do the same thing and come up with this little gem but it would be entirely out of context.

AMD is going to make a big step forward
 
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Last build was my first Intel CPU, and I still feel dirty. OK, actually it was my 2nd Intel, but the first was in a PC my parents bought me as a kid :p

It will be nice to go back to an AMD CPU, and then take a long, hard shower. The shame will always remain, I suspect.

I know the feeling :(
And going to do a penance also.... give for free to my brother the lot. Not going to receive dirty money from selling an intell...
 
As per usual you're trolling.

It's exactly what he said, just reminding people that given the time scales it's not as if it was a total redesign.

I suspect they made most of the changes after finishing Fiji and then analysing its performance and feedback from developers since it launched.

Not the way it works with design, any new arc takes 2-3 years at least.
its why amd choose to skip hdmi 2.0 for the fury as they knew they had a whole new card with dp 1.3 and hdmi 2.0 next year.
so the Polaris technology, awesome btw already had design targets made 2 years ago as with the die shrink they could do something they most likely couldnt do with 28nm or choose to put it into Polaris as that made more sense for the future 5 years..

The future is brighter with AMD
 
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My main concern for AI (now Polaris) and Zen was their ability to ship quantity of product, and without delays. I think the Samsung deal is huge on this front. Also really happy they're going to be supporting HDR with Polaris, rather than postponing it to '17. Adaptive synch over HDMI for LG, Samsung & Panasonic TVs (with presumably others to join) may be huge for them too ... and if Zen APUs with HBM can launch in '16 in volume, that's potentially a knockout blow for AMD in the laptop, media centre and HTPC markets.

Zen is a 2017 product - it hasn't even taped out yet.
 
Lol I though they gave up on high end and just low to mid range ?

no they couldn't match with PB; but zen with 40% ipc over Ex; it will put it at least Haswell if not possibly a little higher.

Unified platform also will help with FX chips using the same mb as Zen APUs....

that's the platform I'll upgrade to
 
Not the way it works with design, any new arc takes 2-3 years at least.
its why amd choose to skip hdmi 2.0 for the fury as they knew they had a whole new card with dp 1.3 and hdmi 2.0 next year.
so the Polaris technology, awesome btw already had design targets made 2 years ago as with the die shrink they could do something they most likely couldnt do with 28nm or choose to put it into Polaris as that made more sense for the future 5 years..

The future is brighter with AMD

So why did Carrizo have the updated Uvd engine and Vce and hdmi2.0 support?
;)
 
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