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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

humbug said:
if he's talking about making VR affordable at 970/390 performance i doubt its at the same price as 970/390's.
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For Polaris to be successful it needs to match or beat 390X performance but at a sub £250 price bracket. No one would pay £300+ for a 390X replacement for the same price as the current 390X?

AMD must be pretty confident to have Polaris event on roughly the launch date of the new 1080/1070 cards.
 
Thats what i don't get, if you're willing to drop £700 down on a headset, then surely you're willing to drop more than about £250 on a graphics card to go with it, but apparently not.

Its like building a top end rig, 5960X, 2x TXs in SLi etc...., costing thousands, but when it comes to a PSU to power it, you don't want to spend more than £25 on a one to do it :p
 
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fs123 said:
For Polaris to be successful it needs to match or beat 390X performance but at a sub £250 price bracket. No one would pay £300+ for a 390X replacement for the same price as the current 390X?

AMD must be pretty confident to have Polaris event on roughly the launch date of the new 1080/1070 cards.
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If its only 390X performance its not going to be £300, by that as it may its going to come in at about £200.

£100 is a lot of money to the sort of people who understand budgeting.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Then why are they going to drop £700 on a headset ?
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10 seconds googling and i found a brand new Oculus Rift Development Kit 2 DK2 for £400.

Besides that its not about what individual components cost its what the overall package costs, £100 is £100 in whatever way you wrap it up.
 
humbug said:
10 seconds googling and i found a brand new Oculus Rift Development Kit 2 DK2 for £400.

Besides that its not about what individual components cost its what the overall package costs, £100 is £100 in whatever way you wrap it up.
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I looked on here, Vives up for pre-order, £696.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Then why are they going to drop £700 on a headset, if a card to go with it, they won't pay more than £200 for ?
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You are assuming the price will stay at £700. The prices will obviously have to drop as the money for these things are usually made on the software side. If they don't get the install base up they won't sell to much in the way of software.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
The softwares already here, the VR market is bloody massive.
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Nah was playing on my mates Vive the other night and there is not much in the way off support for big games. Sure there are lots of small experiences. There are no driving games available yet which we wanted to try. Occulus seems to be ahead in the big game department but trying to get one is not easy.

My mate pre ordered the rift and thought he was getting it end of march. They ran into trouble and could not give him a date. Ordered a Vive and got it 3 weeks later.
 
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TheRealDeal said:
Nah was playing on my mates Vive the other night and there is not much in the way off support for big games. Sure there are lots of small experiences. There are no driving games available yet which we wanted to try.
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It must be, as thats the market AMDs going for to get their marketshare back up, thay aren't going to sell many cards if theres hardly any games/software for them.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
It must be, as thats the market AMDs going for to get their marketshare back up, thay aren't going to sell many cards if theres hardly any games/software for them.
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The games are there and are all getting support it's just taking awhile. What i did play on the vive was great. It really is the next step in gaming for me.
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
Then why are they going to drop £700 on a headset, if a card to go with it, they won't pay more than £200 for ?
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But it's still a drop in overall cost for VR compared to paying £700 for a vive (£500 for Occulus) and then £200 ish for a card instead of £500. You've just brought down the cost of VR to £700 for an occulus setup or £900 for a vive setup compared to £900 and £1200 respectively.

When I bought into a Variable refresh setup I spent £410 on the Fury and £499 on the XL2730Z = £909

If I had gone the Nvidia route that would have cost me £410 on a 980 (at that time or thereabouts) but it would have cost me £700 for a Rog Swift which = £1110, so the overall cost of my choice of VRR kit came in at £200 less for similar performance at the time I was in the market for it. :)
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Thats what i don't get, if you're willing to drop £700 down on a headset, then surely you're willing to drop more than about £250 on a graphics card to go with it, but apparently not.

Its like building a top end rig, 5960X, 2x TXs in SLi etc...., costing thousands, but when it comes to a PSU to power it, you don't want to spend more than £25 on a one to do it :p
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it's not about ppl who can buy the headset, it's about the ppl who make the headsets oculus/Valve, they do not see the point of making cheaper headsets, if the majority of the prospects need to upgrade their PC alongside it, this was palmer luckey's own explanation as to why oculus isn't priced for mainstream yet, you can jump to 11:30.
you might not agree with what he says, but thats basically the kind of reasoning that drives their strategy, even thou VR can run on slower specs than recommanded, valveand oculus doesnt want ppl to do that, they do not want ppl to be put off by having artifacts, motion sickness when you have low framerate etc, to them this is something that could kill VR, since most ppl still do not know that most of the issues you might encounter in VR, isnt because of VR or the headset, but more about the software or the hardware you are using, so they fear that ppl turn their back on VR after their 1st failed trial.
 
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