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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0
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Was quite disappointing tbh Was expecting more. Price 100 to 300 $ So I guessing they is another GPU? 480 is 199$ so they must be another GPU.
At this rate i'll be using my 290 into 2017 Dammmm
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At this rate i'll be using my 290 into 2017 Dammmm
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So Lisa said available on June 29th, which is good.
Overall I thought it was a good presentation, yes we would have like more info, but showing us the products and telling us that Zen is on track is certainly good news.
The RX480 will be interesting as at the $199 mark it should sell well. I notice they also said Polaris from $100-$300 which is interesting, as if the RX480 is $199 and maybe the card with a bigger memory allotment and maybe much better than reference blower will be for the $300, I would also take it to mean that there wont be a dual GPU card and that the earlier 2x480 number were from two separate cards, not a dual GPU card.
Overall I thought it was a good presentation, yes we would have like more info, but showing us the products and telling us that Zen is on track is certainly good news.
The RX480 will be interesting as at the $199 mark it should sell well. I notice they also said Polaris from $100-$300 which is interesting, as if the RX480 is $199 and maybe the card with a bigger memory allotment and maybe much better than reference blower will be for the $300, I would also take it to mean that there wont be a dual GPU card and that the earlier 2x480 number were from two separate cards, not a dual GPU card.
Its a very strange way to perf compare GPU's.
If two of them are faster than a 1080 but only using 50% of performance does that mean one on its own is just as fast given 50% of 100% is = to half of two.
I doubt the 480 is that, some vodo crap going on with that which there not saying.
so in terms of how fast is it we still know nothing.
All we do know is it has 2300 shaders, that is the $200 one and there is a $300 one, 480X? does that one have more shaders?
what is going on?
more question and no answer to the first lot of questions.
If two of them are faster than a 1080 but only using 50% of performance does that mean one on its own is just as fast given 50% of 100% is = to half of two.
I doubt the 480 is that, some vodo crap going on with that which there not saying.
so in terms of how fast is it we still know nothing.
All we do know is it has 2300 shaders, that is the $200 one and there is a $300 one, 480X? does that one have more shaders?
what is going on?
more question and no answer to the first lot of questions.
Why 2017 for Vega
Probably limited by HBM2 availability and maybe cost effectiveness or maturity of 14nm.
$200 is an amazing price. It may not be anything 970/290 and up owners are going to be interested in buying, but it's impossible to be disappointed by something that should open up 1080p/60fps and VR capabilities to an entirely new segment. It's also probably got Nvidia sweating a bit, though I can see them knocking the 970 price down to $250 ASAP til they get GP106 out.
What I *would* find disappointing is if the 480x is going to only a minor jump for an extra $100. That's the card I was hoping to see around $250.
What I *would* find disappointing is if the 480x is going to only a minor jump for an extra $100. That's the card I was hoping to see around $250.
Why 2017 for Vega
When it really comes down to it AMD need to focus on the market NVIDIA currently do not have a card for right now. This card would seem a lot more cost effective to produce and sell a lot more than a big high end/enthusiast card battling the 1080. As in the article above:
"Rather than targeting those 13 million PC’s with a limited availability Vega, AMD decided to address “the other 337 million gaming PC’s.”
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The footage of Doom that they showed had it running at 60-85fps at 1440p, which would make the RX 480 pretty much bang on Fury performance.
For, let's say, £200 for the 8GB version after VAT and Living Outside the USA Tax, that'd be pretty decent. Especially if it overclocks better than the Fury line (and let's face it, it'd be hard not to
). It's obviously not going to blow anybody away on a forum full of hardware enthusiasts, and certainly not going to change anybody's mind about buying a 1080, but they should shift a fair few if it delivers.
For, let's say, £200 for the 8GB version after VAT and Living Outside the USA Tax, that'd be pretty decent. Especially if it overclocks better than the Fury line (and let's face it, it'd be hard not to
). It's obviously not going to blow anybody away on a forum full of hardware enthusiasts, and certainly not going to change anybody's mind about buying a 1080, but they should shift a fair few if it delivers.I would be very surprised if there is a faster version than the RX480, as why on earth wouldn't you be showing that off instead. It would be like having that whole 1080 launch event with only the 1070 being talked about, it makes no sense at all.
Well it's not like the $200 crowd is going to be buying $400 gpus anytime soon, so that market is still safe (gtx 1060 won't launch until much later). Really would have loved seeing some more performance numbers so we would know how it fares against the nano and gtx 980. All we now got was a weird comparison with cf. Doubt many people would be using cf for $200 GPUs, especially with the level of support cf is getting. Would be much smarter to just buy one gtx 1070.
Also great to hear about Zen, but when are we actually going to be able to buy these things? If amd are going to wait for too long they won't have a place in the market anymore. At year's end we'll have kaby lake from Intel, and no one is going to be interested in Zen if it performs significantly worse.
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I see that both Anandtech and PCper are both listing the RX480 as 150w TDP, I do hope not as that is the same as the 1070 and it definitely performs worse that if it takes two of them to beat the 1080 in Ashes, which runs better on AMD hardware at the moment anyway.
150w TDP for its supposed performance is not good news in my opinion. I do hope their wrong on that front.
150w TDP for its supposed performance is not good news in my opinion. I do hope their wrong on that front.