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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

D.P. said:
Efficiency. These theoretical numbers are always a far cry from the real world figures.

The new 14/16nm nodes gives about 70% gain and then they get about 20% from architecture improvents, in the real game benchmarks. AMD likely gain slightly more from the architecture than nvidia, mostly because they were someway behind and the 300 series were rebrands.

Things will be much closer now.
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Hmm thought the nano pretty much bridged that gap considering it is faster than a stock GTX 980. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1556?vs=1442

And the new Pascal cards aren't really that much better than maxwell (furmark always lower than actual games, except for maxwell cards for some reason): http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1731?vs=1714
 
^ what? 980ti tdp is 250w and the 1070 tdp is 150w. Given that ghe 1070 is slightly faster than a 980ti that is pretty nice increase in efficiency.
 
Toss3 said:
Hmm thought the nano pretty much bridged that gap considering it is faster than a stock GTX 980. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1556?vs=1442

And the new Pascal cards aren't really that much better than maxwell (furmark always lower than actual games, except for maxwell cards for some reason): http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1731?vs=1714
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The Nano is a special case be US it is a big chip that is hand selected for the best power charcteristics and is then ran underclocked with lower voktage, and on top of that uses HBM memory which saves 30w or so.

The 1080 is 30-40% faster than a 980ti and uses 50w less power.
 
Davedree said:
Leaked results so yeah maybe untealistic, but these are based on 3d mark11 grsphics score, yours is firestrike.
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The slide just says 3DMark, usually that refers to Firestrike but may be 3DMark11.

in which case it would make more sense and if true it would put P10 above a 980 at the same as a Fury / Fury-Nano, which would be awesome for a $200 card.

My 3DMark11 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10636155
 
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humbug said:
It all fits, even the clock rates, this before Computex.

Well colour me impressed with that much performance for $200, i might actually buy one at that price.
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it looks about right so maybe theres more to come,
but here's the thing my 970 at 1600mhz achieves 18721 graphics score.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11293742 .


I gues we'll just wait and see afterall 3dmark11 is just an outdated synthetic that might not make the use of the graphics front end etc.
 
AMD owns the market, Nvidia dont have anything else than the 1080 and a overpriced 1070.
480 now rules sovereign with superb price/performance that people want.
Nvidia must drop the prices or be totally destroyed.
 
Davedree said:
it looks about right so maybe theres more to come,
but here's the thing my 970 at 1600mhz achieves 18721 graphics score.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11293742 .


I gues we'll just wait and see afterall 3dmark11 is just an outdated synthetic that might not make the use of the graphics front end etc.
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Yeah so does mine, this run was done at 1550/1950 (18,386) http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10636155

The thing for me is this, yes the 970 is a match, with a 30% overclock.
It beats the 980 convincingly with that same overclock.

You stick a 15% overclock on that P10 and its as fast as a stock 980TI.

The performance is there, its also pre release, no doubt they are still working on it and its drivers, it doesn't take a lot for it to be a 980TI, 15%.

$200 ----- Two Hundred Dollars!

i play Star Citizen a lot, much more than Anything, my 970 hates that game because of the V-Ram thing, it needs a proper 4GB, actually 8GB card, the P10 in that run is an 8GB card.

i want an Adaptive Sync Screen, i will not buy G-Sync, i'm not paying £75 - £100 extra just for a name and then be tied to Nvidia. its not happening.

IMO for $200 its looking very good for AMD.
It also looks tempting to me. even with a 970 in my rig.
 
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flopper said:
AMD owns the market, Nvidia dont have anything else than the 1080 and a overpriced 1070.
480 now rules sovereign with superb price/performance that people want.
Nvidia must drop the prices or be totally destroyed.
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Agreed, they'll be sinking quicker than the Titanic, until they get their VR cards out.
 
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humbug said:
Yeah so does mine, this run was done at 1550/1950 (18,386) http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10636155

The thing for me is this, yes the 970 is a match, with a 30% overclock.
It beats the 980 convincingly with that same overclock.

You stick a 15% overclock on that P10 and its as fast as a stock 980TI.

The performance is there, its also pre release, no doubt they are still working on it and its drivers, it doesn't take a lot for it to be a 980TI, 15%.

$200 ----- Two Hundred Dollars!

i play Star Citizen a lot, much more than Anything, my 970 hates that game because of the V-Ram thing, it needs a proper 4GB, actually 8GB card, the P10 in that run is an 8GB card.

i want an Adaptive Sync Screen, i will not buy G-Sync, i'm not paying £75 - £100 extra just for a name and then be tied to Nvidia. its not happening.

IMO for $200 its looking very good for AMD.
It also looks tempting to me. even with a 970 in my rig.
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Totally agree with this, it's there, also we're hoping to see the 40 cu 480x too.

+ I had to remove the pcie power cable off my htpc to run my 970.
The htpc uses a r7 360 single 6pin, just like this polaris uses a 6 pin with considerably more performance.
If they can make these in itx like the sapphire 285/380 itx i'm in.
 
Some people hopefully here will be RX 480X come after RX 480 launch, they don't realised it is actually the same with codename Polaris 10 XT but simplify name. So the next chip will be called RX 470 codename Polaris 10 Pro probably cost $159 for possible 2GB or 4GB with performance target somewhere between GTX 960 and GTX 970.

http://videocardz.com/60824/amd-polaris-10-gpu-in-radeon-rx-400-series
 
If there is a 40 CU 480X and for $300 the 1070 @ $375 is overpriced, because a 40 CU P10 will match a 980TI or even a TX.

Whatever happens i think Nvidia do have a problem with the 1060, i don't think it would be quite as fast and there is no way they intended to change anything like as little as $200 for it.
 
humbug said:
If there is a 40 CU 480X and for $300 the 1070 @ $375 is overpriced, because a 40 CU P10 will match a 980TI or even a TX.

Whatever happens i think Nvidia do have a problem with the 1060, i don't think it would be quite as fast and there is no way they intended to change anything like as little as $200 for it.
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Please stop talking about Pascal.

Always the usual suspects.
 
Davedree said:
Totally agree with this, it's there, also we're hoping to see the 40 cu 480x too.

+ I had to remove the pcie power cable off my htpc to run my 970.
The htpc uses a r7 360 single 6pin, just like this polaris uses a 6 pin with considerably more performance.
If they can make these in itx like the sapphire 285/380 itx i'm in.
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Small Form Factor ITX size is a guarantee looking at the backside of the 480

AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Graphics-Card_2-635x315.jpg
 
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