AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

Davedree · 1 Jun 2016 at 18:09

Ferrari100 said:
Small Form Factor ITX size is a guarantee looking at the backside of the 480

Well spotted, looks like my temporary r7 360 will be getting evicted then.

hyperseven · 1 Jun 2016 at 18:09

LoadsaMoney said:
Agreed, they'll be sinking quicker than the Titanic, until they get their VR cards out.

Yep, there must be millions of HMD's in the populous to rely so heavily on that tech.

humbug · 1 Jun 2016 at 18:12

Ferrari100 said:
Small Form Factor ITX size is a guarantee looking at the backside of the 480

Looks the same size as the Nano, Cute.

Nutella33 · 1 Jun 2016 at 18:19

humbug said:
Looks the same size as the Nano, Cute.

I like that it allows some extra metal for cooling and a fan area on the overhang. It works well with the Fury Pro.

Seanspeed · 1 Jun 2016 at 18:35

Surprised cuz I always thought the Nano was able to go so small partly due to its HBM.

fs123 · 1 Jun 2016 at 18:41

AthlonXP1800 said:
Some people hopefully here will be RX 480X come after RX 480 launch, they don't realised it is actually the same with codename Polaris 10 XT but simplify name. So the next chip will be called RX 470 codename Polaris 10 Pro probably cost $159 for possible 2GB or 4GB with performance target somewhere between GTX 960 and GTX 970.

http://videocardz.com/60824/amd-polaris-10-gpu-in-radeon-rx-400-series

Not so sure about that dude. Lisa Su mentioned that the RX series gpu's range from $100-$300 near the end of the Computex presentation. We know the RX 480 will cost $199 so there will be something else that costs higher than that. I think the 8GB will cost about $229 while a higher end P10 will be the $300 card.

They are probably waiting for the 1070 to be released at a higher price first so that Nvidia can't react before it's launch.

LoadsaMoney · 1 Jun 2016 at 18:43

The 4GB 480 will be $199, the 8GB will be more.

Seanspeed · 1 Jun 2016 at 18:47

fs123 said:
Not so sure about that dude. Lisa Su mentioned that the RX series gpu's range from $100-$300 near the end of the Computex presentation. We know the RX 480 will cost $199 so there will be something else that costs higher than that. I think the 8GB will cost about $229 while a higher end P10 will be the $300 card.

i think they will surprise everyone with an full Polaris too. They are probably waiting for the 1070 to be released at a higher price first so that Nvidia can't react before it's launch.

I think they're using the 480 as it's going to be more aggressively priced. Use that as the face of Polaris in order to present the image of 'amazing value'. Much like Nvidia did with the 970 on release.

A $300 480X may come closer to the 1070, but at $100 more, it doesn't look quite as scintillating a deal, though it could still be very good.

Jono8 · 1 Jun 2016 at 18:55

fs123 said:
Not so sure about that dude. Lisa Su mentioned that the RX series gpu's range from $100-$300 near the end of the Computex presentation. We know the RX 480 will cost $199 so there will be something else that costs higher than that. I think the 8GB will cost about $229 while a higher end P10 will be the $300 card.

They are probably waiting for the 1070 to be released at a higher price first so that Nvidia can't react before it's launch.

The 1070 releases in just over a week. If this card is even close to possibly taking sales away from the 1070, shouldn't AMD be shouting from the rooftops and releasing benchmarks like...now, seen as this comes out a few weeks after? That could be a LOT of lost sales.

This is why I think the rumoured "between 970 and 980 performance" is more realistic.

If this was Fury/Fury X performance and was going to compete with the 1070, I think AMD would either be pricing it higher or showing us what it can do.

I wish they would just say what its relative gaming performance is. It isn't difficult. Even Nvidia managed that when announcing the 1070 and 1080.

I want to be able to decide on which of these new cards I'm going to buy god damn it

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SiDeards73 · 1 Jun 2016 at 18:59

LoadsaMoney said:
The 4GB 480 will be $199, the 8GB will be more.

Yep but it wont be $100 more for an extra 4GB Vram, i fully expect to see a 480X or a 490 or something that delivers 1070 levels of performance for $300.

I can see AMD winning this round and i feel its just about to get started.

brawl3r · 1 Jun 2016 at 19:24

Do you not think we might hear more about this higher tier'd card at e3, especially with Battlefield One being live streamed.

fs123 · 1 Jun 2016 at 19:28

brawl3r said:
Do you not think we might hear more about this higher tier'd card at e3, especially with Battlefield One being live streamed.

Didn't realise E3 was just 2 weeks away :eek:

. It makes sense now why they didn't show a 480X variant. Let's hope you are right.

shankly1985 · 1 Jun 2016 at 19:29

I expect least hoping amd have something they not yet showing.
Too showcase battlefield 1 in all its details etc is a 480RX up for the job? Am not sure it is.

I hoping amd has one surprise a 490x or something along them lines. I do really want to upgrade this year Amd haa

Fury line up is a no go, because I feel 4Gb isn't a upgrade. 300 series isn't worth the cost over my 290. So am stuck in a hole waiting. Tbh I don't even need to upgrade am more than happy how this 290 is doing at 1440p.

maonayze · 1 Jun 2016 at 19:38

fs123 said:
Didn't realise E3 was just 2 weeks away . It makes sense now why they didn't show a 480X variant. Let's hope you are right.

Raja did say right at the end of his talk that we would hear more about Polaris in the next two weeks.

AlamoX · 1 Jun 2016 at 19:44

shankly1985 said:
I expect least hoping amd have something they not yet showing.
Too showcase battlefield 1 in all its details etc is a 480RX up for the job? Am not sure it is.

I hoping amd has one surprise a 490x or something along them lines. I do really want to upgrade this year Amd haa

Fury line up is a no go, because I feel 4Gb isn't a upgrade. 300 series isn't worth the cost over my 290. So am stuck in a hole waiting. Tbh I don't even need to upgrade am more than happy how this 290 is doing at 1440p.

i think battlefield1 still uses the same frostbite engine as the one in bf4 or battlefront, to be honest these games arn't that demading, you get high 100s maxed 1080p, and probably 70s in 1440p with an R9 390, i dont see it changing much for BF1.

D.P. · 1 Jun 2016 at 19:49

maonayze said:
Raja did say right at the end of his talk that we would hear more about Polaris in the next two weeks.

I'm sure he meant more details of the 480 and the Polaris 11 cards. Mirrvsrchitectures, benchamarks, power etc.

There have really been no rumours of a Polaris gpu faster than the announced 480. The Polaris rumours so far have been extremely accurate, like the pascal rumourn (far more accurate than a certain website that claims to be semi accurate.)

What isn't certain is if the 480 uses the complete P10 chip of if they have yield issues and there is this fabled 40CU part. If there is then there might be a 480x in the works with another 10% performance. I don't think they will.release it immediately after the 480 launch though. The 480x might be that October Vegas rumour. Maybe if therequired was a problem Polaris 10 is going for a response and the 480x will be the 40CU and a clock bump.

shankly1985 · 1 Jun 2016 at 19:49

AlamoX said:
i think battlefield1 still uses the same frostbite engine as the one in bf4 or battlefront, to be honest these games arn't that demading, you get high 100s maxed 1080p, and probably 70s in 1440p with an R9 390, i dont see it changing much for BF1.

True, plus I expect this release to support DX12.

Phixsator · 1 Jun 2016 at 20:00

AlamoX said:
i think battlefield1 still uses the same frostbite engine as the one in bf4 or battlefront, to be honest these games arn't that demading, you get high 100s maxed 1080p, and probably 70s in 1440p with an R9 390, i dont see it changing much for BF1.

everytime DICE has released a new battlefield game with a revised frostbite engine the graphics quality has gone up a good deal. From what i have heard/read/seen on the interwebs everything in BF1 is turned to 11 including destruction. Normally that would scare me a bit when it comes to hardware requirement but DICE has shown with BF4 and especially with battlefront(minus the destruction here) that they can do all this while still being extremely efficient with the hardware power required. But i would expect BF1 to be brutal on the highest settings. I think my current 290 will cough blood at 1440P. Good thing i might upgrade to polaris.

TheMorningStar · 1 Jun 2016 at 20:06

The 480 should be competing pretty well with the 1070 at this rate, stock speeds anyway. Not sure what price the 1070 is likely to be however but I'd imagine about £300 or more looking at the 1080s pricing. PC Advisor is saying £399. I just can't see that being desirable to anyone who knows the 480 exists and performs fairly similarly at stock, I guess overclock ability could come into it if AMD are a bit crap on that front.

Gregster · 1 Jun 2016 at 20:15

TheMorningStar said:
The 480 should be competing pretty well with the 1070 at this rate, stock speeds anyway. Not sure what price the 1070 is likely to be however but I'd imagine about £300 or more looking at the 1080s pricing. PC Advisor is saying £399. I just can't see that being desirable to anyone who knows the 480 exists and performs fairly similarly at stock, I guess overclock ability could come into it if AMD are a bit crap on that front.

I think you are being a bit optimistic with that assumption. The 1070 is supposed to be faster than a Titan X, and a 480 is touted as a 980 contender.