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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

flopper said:
I cant say I enjoy console gaming, I tried but it isnt for me.
PC however with eyefinity or such are absolutly a superb immersive experience. I am atm running only one screen as my 3 other ones become to old so I bought a 1440p 144hz. I have soon 400 hours into grim dawn and still not a L85 avatar.

For the future I plan to have eyefinity again or VR whenever its mature for it which isnt this year. Since AMD suddenly with the market went HDR all my plans had to be revised. Now I have to have a new HDR screen and then 2 more for eyefinity with a Polaris GPU and later Zen CPU.
True I will mainly play Grim Dawn or similiar games, mostly write and facebook but when you use your computer and then have it work the way you want its simply for me something I can enjoy immensly as I spend time with it. I had my other screens for 8 years so I am not one that update or upgrade often. Zen+Polaris and HDR well it seems this is a year to update.

I am impressed that AMD has silicon up and running so the launch seems to be one that they get right this time. Fury one they messed up.
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Flopper, enable trust, i want to setup some GD sessions with you :) im still not 85 on any of my toons yet lol.

Ive been reading more Polaris info recently and im kinda worried, AMD seem to be emphasising, half the wattage of current GPU's for same performance, i hope were not going to see much much lower wattage but hardly any performance increase, especially given the Fiji fiasco and the fact it overclocks as decently as a wet fart :(

I have this nasty feeling that the top end Polaris stuff is going to only be marginally better than what we have now, but a lot less power intensive and that will be their selling point :( i hope im wrong
 
SiDeards73 said:
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Flopper, enable trust, i want to setup some GD sessions with you :) im still not 85 on any of my toons yet lol.

Ive been reading more Polaris info recently and im kinda worried, AMD seem to be emphasising, half the wattage of current GPU's for same performance, i hope were not going to see much much lower wattage but hardly any performance increase, especially given the Fiji fiasco and the fact it overclocks as decently as a wet fart :(

I have this nasty feeling that the top end Polaris stuff is going to only be marginally better than what we have now, but a lot less power intensive and that will be their selling point :( i hope im wrong
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Amd are highlighting this as much as they can due to the success of the gtx970/980. They are classed as the second coming yet AMD's year older chips are performing similarly.
 
TheRealDeal said:
Amd are highlighting this as much as they can due to the success of the gtx970/980. They are classed as the second coming yet AMD's year older chips are performing similarly.
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I didn't think the non-ti 980 was at all popular. Most everyone thinks it's overpriced. And the 970 has had its critics, we all heard about 3.5gate ;)

It's hard to get excited for the 390, in all fairness. It's a rebrand with more memory. I still remember Hawaii being called a "volcano", so I assumed this applied to the 390 also.

I knew I wouldn't be buying either, but waiting for next-gen cards.
 
Power consumption seems more important than performance these days.

I'm sure AMD/Nv will have bigger GPU's higher performance but not till later. First will be same for less power.
Look at the 970. People will admit the 390 is better but then go on about how it uses more power than the 970 as if that's more important.
 
FoxEye said:
I didn't think the non-ti 980 was at all popular. Most everyone thinks it's overpriced. And the 970 has had its critics, we all heard about 3.5gate ;)

It's hard to get excited for the 390, in all fairness. It's a rebrand with more memory. I still remember Hawaii being called a "volcano", so I assumed this applied to the 390 also.

I knew I wouldn't be buying either, but waiting for next-gen cards.
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The Volcano quotes are more to do with the cooler compared to the actual chip. My OC 290p runs around 67oc at load. The stock cooled cards at launch were doing 95oc. A really bad move from AMD as it gave the chips a bad name which has stuck when in fact they are really good chips.
 
TheRealDeal said:
Amd are highlighting this as much as they can due to the success of the gtx970/980. They are classed as the second coming yet AMD's year older chips are performing similarly.
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Yeh, can't blame them for going this route.

When you consider that a overclocked Fury X consumes less power than a overclocked 980ti, we can see AMD are in a good position to move forward.

I fully expect them to produce the most power efficient cards next generation.

I only wonder if the posters who were trashing AMD for producing hot power hungry GPU's will do the same for NVIDIA, though we all know they'll simply say power consumption/heat output doesn't matter when it happens.
 
Dave2150 said:
Yeh, can't blame them for going this route.

When you consider that a overclocked Fury X consumes less power than a overclocked 980ti, we can see AMD are in a good position to move forward.

I fully expect them to produce the most power efficient cards next generation.

I only wonder if the posters who were trashing AMD for producing hot power hungry GPU's will do the same for NVIDIA, though we all know they'll simply say power consumption/heat output doesn't matter when it happens.
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Why would you compare an overclocked card to a stock card? Not that I care about the power draw but seems a bizzare statement.
 
I think Gregs sarcasm was lost on most people, the fact Fiji Overclocked consumes the same power roughly as the stock Fiji, mainly due to the fact its not infact an overclockers dream.

Like i say, all this hype about wattage lowered is great news for the markets that care about it, enthusiast high end GPU market is not that market, all we care about is sheer performance and the cost of that performance in direct monetary terms.

Also while the 980 might not be so popular now, there was a good while when the 980ti was not released that the 980 was and it was the go-to card for most people, this has only changed with the release of the 980ti.

I just wish GPU companies could show you a prospective catalog in advice, something along the lines of "Heres our Polaris Catalog for Gen1, xxx low end, xxx mid range, xxx high end, xxx Halo" and rough estimated release dates for that stuff, atleast the buyer would have a rough idea when to expect what, dunno why they always announce stuff much later. Wishful thinking on my part i guess
 
humbug said:
Greg doesn't do sarcasm, Unless he ###### up
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I think it's just a question of the truth hurts. The 980ti overclocked uses more power than the Fury X overclocked. Whether one card overclocks better than the other is besides the point.

AMD often get trash talked around here for having high heat output and consuming a lot of power - both of these issues were effectively removed with the FuryX.

It runs cooler than the 980ti also, due to it's included AIO water cooler.

Can't wait to see AMD's next generation cards, focused on power efficiency. Should be a great 2016, graphics wise.
 
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Dave2150 said:
I think it's just a question of the truth hurts. The 980ti overclocked uses more power than the Fury X overclocked. Whether one card overclocks better than the other is besides the point.

AMD often get trash talked around here for having high heat output and consuming a lot of power - both of these issues were effectively removed with the FuryX.

It runs cooler than the 980ti also, due to it's included AIO water cooler.

Can't wait to see AMD's next generation cards, focused on power efficiency. Should be a great 2016, graphics wise.
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Is removing a cards ability to over clock really a "solution"?
And we have seen people unlock them, the power usage shoots up and the fps doesn't, not sure what part of any of that is actually preferable.
 
Dave2150 said:
I think it's just a question of the truth hurts. The 980ti overclocked uses more power than the Fury X overclocked. Whether one card overclocks better than the other is besides the point.

AMD often get trash talked around here for having high heat output and consuming a lot of power - both of these issues were effectively removed with the FuryX.

It runs cooler than the 980ti also, due to it's included AIO water cooler.

Can't wait to see AMD's next generation cards, focused on power efficiency. Should be a great 2016, graphics wise.
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Whilst power consumption has never been something that i worry about myself, cause lets be honest most of us here are running oc'd cpu's and cards. Therefore any notions of power saving are a bit of a moot point. As the 980ti overclocks a fair bit more than a furyx, power usage will be a good deal higher

The reference 980ti is indeed a hot running card, not an issue on the non ref models. In the case of the Furyx, it would be interesting to see how one runs without an AIO. Whilst it obviously does a very good job at cooling the card, (same can be seen with 980ti hybrid cooled models) an AIO isnt ideal for everyone, more of an issue if you go multi card.
 
So in this thread people seem to be thinking that mid range polaris will happen soonish but wont be spectacular, and probably no monster cards this year,
despite AMD supposedly being in the lead on production

Then in the pascal thread there seems to be a feeling that nvidia will release mid range in summer time with possibly new Titan in the autumn even though they are behind and still waiting on high capacity HBM2

Not seeing much correlation / verification when looking from both angles
 
Ash0787 said:
So in this thread people seem to be thinking that mid range polaris will happen soonish but wont be spectacular, and probably no monster cards this year,
despite AMD supposedly being in the lead on production

Then in the pascal thread there seems to be a feeling that nvidia will release mid range in summer time with possibly new Titan in the autumn even though they are behind and still waiting on high capacity HBM2

Not seeing much correlation / verification when looking from both angles
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I think the take awy from that is that nobody really knows. Personally I would be suprised if we didn't see a flagship from AMD half way though this year. Given they have had an HBM dry run with Fury they'd be foolish not to try and capitalise, and while the money is made on volume of lower end cards being perceived to be fastest and newest is very important.
 
If you look at the last round, AMD announced Fiji stuff, no one knew what was really coming, hype was massive, Overclockers were having wet dreams imagining all sorts of epicness.

Nvidia released the TitanX, followed extremely quickly by the 980ti, which offerend almost identical performance (often better) lower ram at a much lower price point.

AMD then brought out the rebards and the Fiji chips...

all round, Nvidia battered AMD bigtime,

First to market with the absolute top end = TitanX (980ti also i guess?)
First to market with the Overclockers dream = 980ti

AMD arrived late with

Whinegate on the pumps on the FuryX
Not an overclockers dreams on the Fiji
"Overpriced cos we want a premium image" on the Fiji stuff
Rebrand central on pretty much everything else

Now im not one to usually bigup Nvidia, but it seems to me they absolutely smashed AMD apart the last round :( the only thing coming out of AMD i find remotely decent is the Nano, i wouldnt touch a Fiji card other than that, and i wouldnt buy a Nano.

Its no wonder AMD have formed RTG to try and claw back market share, i just hope whoever was in charge of the abortion that was Fiji was sacked or at the very minimum given a job where they have zero input on GPU's ever again.

Im still boggled at the fact the current market is mainly 1080p yet AMD decided to throw its high end at the 4k (not even going to go into hdmi 2.0 or lackof) its all fine and dandy saying dont buy a FuryX for 1080p, but some people want the perceived best gpu and still havent moved from 1080p, people are odd like that, they will buy the absolute best GPU while still holding themselves back with a monitor that cant make the most use from it, it happens, more often than most people think or would like to admit.

Anyhow, i have little to zero faith now in AMD to pull one back for team Red, especially with the current Polaris news being mostly orientated towards power saving....

Am i the only person feeling like this?
 
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