Yes seems we are going to suffer a bit longer at Nvidias hands. Until AMD can bring out the big guns. We will have to wait and see really what the real reviews say, but if it is close to a Fury X it seems about right sadly.
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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0
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Yes seems we are going to suffer a bit longer at Nvidias hands. Until AMD can bring out the big guns. We will have to wait and see really what the real reviews say, but if it is close to a Fury X it seems about right sadly.
That graph is for the whole 3dmark benchmark is it not (not just firestrike)?
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The chart is bogus though as all the old cards are scoring way to high. If this is Firestrike then look at the scores and compare to our own Bench thread. If those scores are fake then most likely so are the Polaris ones.
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Maybe not sure will take another look. It could be, not used to people running the full bench as the first 2 tests are far to easy for top end cards.
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Nvidia probably has leaked info available to them since they seem to know what is AMD about to release and announce and price accordingly. It happened last time just prior to the FuryX release when they announced the 980Ti at the same price level.
I suspect they know Polaris will not compete with the 1070 hence why the rather high price and excessive pricing of the 1080.
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Makes more sense now.
Wouldn't surprise me mate, especially how business ethics are these days.
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But AMD strongly hinted at performance anyway.
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I don't want to cause an argument, but if you use the links that DM has kindly provided for us and either click on the first one, then click on the 'Shop Radeon™ VR Ready Premium products' and then sort by price low to high.
They list get a R9 290 for $224.99
Or use the second link and sort by price low to high, they list a 390 for $279.99
What does this mean for that original slide stating $329.99, I have no idea, but it certainly means they are not listing the CURRENT CARD prices as DM put it.
I'm a bit surprised DM got that wrong really, as sorting by price low to high is common sense.
Places have the 290 for sale, but it simply isn't a current card regardless of what you might want. The current range, precisely why I kept using the word current. This generation of cards being sold now runs from 390-Fury X. AMD are no longer selling 290/290x to anyone and haven't for what, 18 months? When Nvidia talk about their range of cards on sale, do they add prices for the odd still randomly available 530gt because someone still has stock listed for sale somewhere?
Oh so the 390 for $279.99 isn't current then.
You really are incapable of admitting your wrong aren't you.
Oh so the 390 for $279.99 isn't current then.
You really are incapable of admitting your wrong aren't you.
The AMD slide clearly refers to the 390 as the bottom of the VR capable range since it had an RRP of $329 from when it was released. It doesn't matter if retailers are selling it for less these days because AMD will have to quote their own RRP in any presentations.
Heres an old article showing the RRP for the 300 series before/at release.
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-pricing-leaked-200-series/
People are relating the prices in the slide to Polaris but it would be really stupid for AMD to announce prices without even announcing the actual cards. It would simply give the competition the heads up.
Unless you know what the presenter said while showing the slide it is all just pure speculation. I doubt they would release sensitive info like pricing without informing their investors publically via an RNS.
Since AMD want to provide VR ready gpu's to the masses, I think we should see the 480 Polaris t0 perform like a 390 at least.
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How big a gap do you think there will be between Vega and Polaris?
Is Vega going to release and only be a 1080 competitor or will it spank that and be a GP100 competitor?
Hopefully it's the best card. Im hoping it pips the 1080Ti.
I'm saving for a card end of this year, I want it to smash 4K. I would much rather buy from AMD (as a company). But I will put my money into whatever the best card is. (maybe)
I'm saving for a card end of this year, I want it to smash 4K. I would much rather buy from AMD (as a company). But I will put my money into whatever the best card is. (maybe)
The AMD slide clearly refers to the 390 as the bottom of the VR capable range since it had an RRP of $329 from when it was released. It doesn't matter if retailers are selling it for less these days because AMD will have to quote their own RRP in any presentations.
Heres an old article showing the RRP for the 300 series before/at release.
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-pricing-leaked-200-series/
People are relating the prices in the slide to Polaris but it would be really stupid for AMD to announce prices without even announcing the actual cards. It would simply give the competition the heads up.
Unless you know what the presenter said while showing the slide it is all just pure speculation. I doubt they would release sensitive info like pricing without informing their investors publically via an RNS.
Since AMD want to provide VR ready gpu's to the masses, I think we should see the 480 Polaris t0 perform like a 390 at least.
Yup I do agree that the slide probably refers to the original MSRP of the 390.
That doesn't change the fact that DM insisted that it referred to current prices and then he linked to AMD's own website listing prices that were in fact only $279.99 for a 390. He made a big thing out of him saying 'current prices' and told people to use common sense.
He made a mistake, but of course he wont admit that.
I did say in my original post that I didn't want to cause an argument.
Yup I do agree that the slide probably refers to the original MSRP of the 390.
That doesn't change the fact that DM insisted that it referred to current prices and then he linked to AMD's own website listing prices that were in fact only $279.99 for a 390. He made a big thing out of him saying 'current prices' and told people to use common sense.
He made a mistake, but of course he wont admit that.
I did say in my original post that I didn't want to cause an argument.
No, you guys made a **** and ball show out of the entire thing. What DM put was correct as you can see from the original link he posted. Here is the direct link to one of the many parts at that price point.
http://shop.amd.com/en-us/components/graphic-cards/R9390P8BD6
He didnt make a big thing out of it, he stated just as i did earlier in the thread that it was about current pricing. Everyone else as they always do made a big thing out of it just because it was DM who posted it.
Yes, the single cheapest one on the site goes for 280ish, but the majority are over 300. Don't pick one out of the lot just to try and make a point.
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Oh for gods sake, he made a mistake, it happens, he is not infallible, contrary to what he might have you believe, the way the circling of the wagons happens when ever he gets called out on a error is ridiculous.
I did also point out that he wasn't the only one to say that $329 their current pricing.
I did also point out that he wasn't the only one to say that $329 their current pricing.
To be fair to DM he wasn't the only one who suggested that the £329 price point was listing the current cards prices.
