Interesting that the new crossfire requires no bridges, wonder if that's a direct result of the chip being allowed to hit 95c, taking away the bridges so you don't have to sandwich the cards together and being able to use further away pcie slots.
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*** AMD Radeon R9 290X Reviews Thread ***
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Have they been restricted intentionally or do you just mean because of all the release nonsense they won't be able to release anything until December?
You can get extra long bridges so I doubt it's that. I think it's just because with PCI-E 3.0, the lanes are wide enough to do away with the bridge.
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OCUK have custom cooled 780s for under 500 sheets at the minute which kinda makes the price of the ref 290x about right if you're not into changing cooler or watercooling. It's only Titan that's still looking really overpriced.
This is what I would say is a proper fiddlers card, for people who laugh in the face of stock coolers and always remove them ASAP. AMD tend to do that and price them accordingly. They should do a cheaper cooler-less card. Nvidia make cards for people who like to fit and forget............and pay for the privilege.
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It's because of the new xfire tech. Comms between cards happens directly via PCI-E now, so no bridge required.
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So much so that their stock "Titan style" "reference" cooler cards priced at £30+ above partners card with custom coolers that's even better at cooling
Still some un-answered questions for now...
1) BF4 benchies
2) Mantle improvements if any + Mantle benchies
3) What improvements will we see from other manufacturers via non reference
Then lets factor in after this initial burst of first time 290x buyers, maybe the price will reduce a little bit. Maybe see some £399.99 prices by Xmas and 2x more card to choose from, perhaps IF Nvidia drop their prices to compete with ATI also to hit under 400...
I think for late november if not Xmas this may be a great choice, once a few more questions get answered and Nvidia make some price drops! Who knows the 780 maybe an better option, all Nvidia would have to do is drop it by £100-£150 and it would be a great option!
1) BF4 benchies
2) Mantle improvements if any + Mantle benchies
3) What improvements will we see from other manufacturers via non reference
Then lets factor in after this initial burst of first time 290x buyers, maybe the price will reduce a little bit. Maybe see some £399.99 prices by Xmas and 2x more card to choose from, perhaps IF Nvidia drop their prices to compete with ATI also to hit under 400...
I think for late november if not Xmas this may be a great choice, once a few more questions get answered and Nvidia make some price drops! Who knows the 780 maybe an better option, all Nvidia would have to do is drop it by £100-£150 and it would be a great option!
I'm guessing it's too early to know if/what CPU's and speeds are (if at all), hold the card back performance wise.
Just what affect clock speed and architecture has on the card.
Could AMD's own FX 8350 with 8 cores be enough to feed it..?
Is there any speed difference between running on Z87 and X79 platforms? (I'm guessing this would only show up under tri-fire or something)
Hopefully you understand the angle I'm getting at.
Just what affect clock speed and architecture has on the card.
Could AMD's own FX 8350 with 8 cores be enough to feed it..?
Is there any speed difference between running on Z87 and X79 platforms? (I'm guessing this would only show up under tri-fire or something)
Hopefully you understand the angle I'm getting at.
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Found another review here for the op. Follows the same pattern as the rest.
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...290x-piledrives-nvidias-high-end-product-line
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...290x-piledrives-nvidias-high-end-product-line
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R3X> Mantle is in December. Good luck with that question, best have that on hold!
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lol, you really will try anything to try and discredit this card. Amazing.
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Huh? Discredit it...
What was wrong with that review, Linus talks about overclocking being limited due to heat, watercoolers don't need to fear reference cards, but those who like to overclock on air should wait for non reference cards.
He also says it's the price VS performance king, and recommends it. What more do you want?
To many touchy feely people here
, it's a GPU not your girlfriend. Weirdly sensitive about AMD.
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How many times have you posted that Linus review now Boom? Seems it's that or Furmark benchmarks are your go-to posts now.
Here's the post:
Hi there
Right guys, being stress testing this solution over-night and all day to day.
At stock speeds, voltage reduced too 1225mv (Stock is 1250mv) the card running Heaven maxed out, never exceeded 50c underload and was completely silent. That is a good 30-35c improvement with the MK26 cooler over stock.
Maximum overclock does not improve any further with silent fans, but you can match the max overclock, again keeping silent fans your looking at approx 85c under load, so about 5c improvement over the stock fan at 100% which is hoover loud.
However this is the real sweet spot guys for 24/7 gaming:-
Core: 1100Mhz
RAM: 6000MHz
Voltage: 1300mv
Power: +50
Fans: Silent
Heaven 3.0: Tesselation Extreme, 16x/8x AA/AF at 2560x1440
Maximum load temperature was 62c and in SILENCE.
The stock cooler could do this but with two dis-advantages, you'd be pushing 85c area and the fans would be at 75-100%, so you'd be hotter and much louder.
In short this is the perfect gaming setup, yet you could push the OC easily to 1150 / 6400, but in our view why? Keep the card 110% safe and cool whilst still absolutely beasting everything.
The MK26 works superb, nothing is melting, VRM's, memory is all fine.
Soon we shall test EK Blocks for those who wish to go water as that will be the ultimate solution and a 24/7 gaming could be no doubt done easily with 1200/6400 speeds.
Caporegime
That's just a bench of Heaven though. A long gaming session will probably see higher temps. But it is still a very big reduction in temps and much better than reference.
Heaven gives higher GPU temps for me than any game does...
The reference cooler from what I've seen is fine at stock, it's just no use at all for running the card maxed out.