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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

Suarez7 said:
So do you think both nvidia and AMD will now spend longer trying to get more out of each nm process? If so I can see performance gains crawling to a halt.
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Yea they must, slow adaption, cost goes up due to early node development.
engineering face challenges with smaller nodes they didnt have previously etc..
 
They're mentioning the 8 core support a lot too, all the FB3 games will run well on 8320s (and obviously 8 core next gen consoles).
 
Suarez7 said:
So do you think both nvidia and AMD will now spend longer trying to get more out of each nm process? If so I can see performance gains crawling to a halt.
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Potentially, and it might be the reason Nvidia talked about using stacked RAM,etc with future designs.

I am still worried Apple signing on to TSMC will screw stuff up for us PC gamers!! :(
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The thing is cost though. Even if Nvidia gets capacity before AMD,I expect it to be limited especially as Apple and Qualcomm will want to move to 20NM as soon as possible,and they make high yielding smaller chips anyway. Apple is the major factor here and they have the money to get as much capacity as they want. This is unlike with 28NM and 40NM.
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Apple and 1-2 other smaller companies seem to have the 1st round of mass production allocated then qualcomm and nVidia are bundled in together after that (which suggests maxwell GPUs may see the light of day somewhere around the end of Q1 2014 to the middle of 2014).

EDIT: I might be getting some of the ARM and Apple stuff mixed up as they have similiar A numbers :S
 
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I doubt Nvidia or AMD are going to be moving to 20nm anytime soon, even if it is available, both are complaining about low yields and wafer costs, i think they may hold off for a while after its available, might even if late into 2014.
 
Suarez7 said:
Nice find Greg, so the extreme thing wasn't there in black and white, people were just seeing what they wanted to see :D
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Didn't surprise me it was performance...at extreme it would have been faster than my stock 7990...people will be disappointed, not a massive performance leap at all...pricing will be the key here.
 
Suarez7 said:
So do you think both nvidia and AMD will now spend longer trying to get more out of each nm process? If so I can see performance gains crawling to a halt.
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The problem I see with this if it is the case... Both companies are bigging up 4K but realistically, we have nothing that can cope with 4K at top specs.
 
Rroff said:
Apple and 1-2 other smaller companies seem to have the 1st round of mass production allocated then qualcomm and nVidia are bundled in together after that (which suggests maxwell GPUs may see the light of day somewhere around the end of Q1 2014 to the middle of 2014).
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I still think they will target a GK110 successor in smaller quantities,so that they can hold off on MIC eating into their professional markets. Even then that still places Maxwell based consumer cards towards 2H 2014.

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Even Geforce Titan appeared yonks after the first GK110 based compute cards were delivered to customers.
 
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