AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

Martini1991 · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:04

LtMatt said:
Taken from your link. That's why its not supposed to replace the 7850 Martini.

The 7770 launched higher priced than the better 6850.

The 1GB 7850 is all but gone.

But, sure, we'll just say it expanded the range, because its performance doesn't match a 7850 1GB (Which no one ever said it did)

LtMatt · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:05

3t3P said:
Is and going up against titan/780 only or 770 too?

Titan/780. 7970ghz already matches up well against a 770.

LtMatt · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:09

Martini1991 said:
The 7770 launched higher priced than the better 6850.

HD7770 is faster than a 6850.

I'll dig through the archives for ya...

3298. GFX Score 3508. 7770. Air cooling. Physics Score 12803. CPU 2700K @ 5.0 Water cooled - LTMatt

LtMatt said:
HD7770 is a little bit faster than a 6850. 7790 is what, 10-15% faster than a HD7770, probably looking at around 15-20% extra performance.

Tonester0011 said:
Probably looking at a tad more.
Your overclocked 7770 beat my overclocked 6850 by 20%, we were both running average overclocks of around 20-25% as well.

I'm not too sure how well the 7790s clocks like, gotta be the same as all the other 7*** series though.
Either way it's a half decent upgrade, if the OP could find the extra couple of quid for a 7850 he'll be laughing (or get lucky with the clearance lines, what's annoyingly empty atm)

LtMatt said:
Thanks for chirping in Tone.

The Hd7770 is not to be under estimated once clocked. Like all AMD 7xxx cards it scales well (though not as well as 79xx cards) with overclocking. In most current DX11 games it beats a 6850 with both cards at stock settings, though its not by much. I will grant at stock the 6850 is generally the faster in my opinion due to the 128bit bus on the 7770 but once you overclock the 7770 it catches up.

Tonester0011 said:
Found my score.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=22908510&postcount=1339

980/1150 (not 1300 like i thought, i think that's one of my other 6850s that do that)

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4573393

Martini1991 · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:11

The 7770 when it launched, stock for stock, wasn't faster than a 6850.
It came out higher priced too.

Look at reviews.

From anandtech ;

The problem for AMD today isn’t the power/performance curve, it’s the price/performance curve. 16 months ago AMD launched the Radeon HD 6850 at $179 amidst fierce competition from NVIDIA. Ignoring the current price of the 6850 for the moment, on average the 7770 delivers 90% of the 6850’s gaming performance for 90% of the 6850’s launch price. In other words in 16 months AMD has moved nowhere along the price/performance curve – if you go by launch prices you’re getting the same amount of performance per dollar today as you did in October of 2010. In reality the 6850 is much cheaper than that, with a number of cards selling for $159 before a rebate, while several more 6870s sell for $159 after rebate. The 7770 is so far off the price/performance curve that you have to believe that this is either a pricing error or AMD is planning on quickly halting 6800 series production.

But I expect you to just quote some overclocked results, move the goal posts a little.

So I'll just leave it here.

LtMatt · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:14

Martini1991 said:
The 7770 when it launched, stock for stock, wasn't faster than a 6850.
It came out higher priced too.

Look at reviews.

From anandtech ;

Drivers.

Also always take user benchmarks over review site.

Martini1991 · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:15

But it didn't launch with those drivers, and the point was the launch.
I think the 7770 actually launched near 6870 pricing, I bought some 6870's for about 120-140 each 2 years ago.

flopper · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:15

LtMatt said:
Titan/780. 7970ghz already matches up well against a 770.

I call that a 7970ghz beating a 770.
so the 290 pro version should sit in between the 770 and 780 and likely to be the best price/performance card after 7970.

LtMatt · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:16

Martini1991 said:
But it didn't launch with those drivers, and the point was the launch.

Present Day >> Pasty Tenths.

The 7770 is the faster card. I know i own one.

Silent_Scone · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:20

Any more early results to go on besides Legit Reviews?

teppic · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:20

I hope it's not clocked too low. AMD made that mistake with the 7970, then forever review sites would compare high clocked nvidia cards against a reference 7970 at 25MHz or whatever it was, and people still think a GTX 670 can outperform one.

LtMatt · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:23

Martini1991 said:
But it didn't launch with those drivers, and the point was the launch.
I think the 7770 actually launched near 6870 pricing, I bought some 6870's for about 120-140 each 2 years ago.

Got my HD7770 for £90 with free games from ocuk just before christmas last year.

Martini1991 · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:27

It needed to drop.
I got my friend one for about 80 quid a little a while ago with 5 games, it does him fine.

LtMatt · 23 Sep 2013 at 11:29

Martini1991 said:
It needed to drop.
I got my friend one for about 80 quid a little a while ago with 5 games, it does him fine.

The annoying this was the 7790 launched not long after and i would have much rather got that for the GCN1.1-2.0 performance optimizations +30% for only a 5% higher TDP. Alas it wasn't to be.

Boomstick777 · 23 Sep 2013 at 12:04

Hoping we get some benchmarks leaked today, some pics of the different branded cards would be nice as well.

My 780 may well end up on MM soon.

flopper · 23 Sep 2013 at 12:39

After all leaks amd gpu center

Don't hotlink images - Rilot

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-sha...and-center-ready-to-launch-hawaii-gpus_124633

LtMatt · 23 Sep 2013 at 12:43

I thought that was a joke until i saw the link at the bottom of your post.

What time in the UK will the live stream be on?

Make · 23 Sep 2013 at 12:56

I actually scanned through that picture with a zoom in order to find any new info, such as one of the cards lying on the table or something

Boomstick777 · 23 Sep 2013 at 12:58

flopper said:
After all leaks amd gpu center

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-sha...and-center-ready-to-launch-hawaii-gpus_124633

Meanwhile over at Nvidia...

Besty · 23 Sep 2013 at 12:59

So..... 37.5% faster than a 7970 and nudges a Titan, beating it in some scenarios at stock.

I'd buy that for a dollar, just make sure its not 1000 otherwise I will send the boys 'round.

melmac · 23 Sep 2013 at 13:16

Kaapstad said:
Before the Titan was launched some of the figures and supposed benches for it were way over the top, like being able to match the GTX 690 - it does not even get close lol.

I was one of the few people who said the Titan would not perform anything like some of the silly claims made about it.

Until we see how the R9 290X runs and overclocks to get the full picture we have to keep an open mind.

People went crazy before the release of the Titan. Everyone knew roughly what the specs of it were because it was based on the GK110, but people still said it would have amazing performance.

At least with the launch of these cards the performance estimation and leaks are in line with the rumoured specs

So, yeah we have to keep an open mind and not get too excited at leaks, but at least they aren't gone wild with the performance estimations.

PS. I was also one of the few.