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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

I don't think it is an intel stock cooler. I do however think its a very similar type of cooler. Regardless i don't think cooler temps will have made a difference in short benchmark gaming runs.

all stock runs.
not for a typical (me) user who runs 4.5ghz cpu and almost maxed out OC card.
 
Just too many suspicions surrounding it for me Kaap. I want to believe those bench results we are seeing but all this cloak and dagger crap just makes me very dubious.

+1

I don't blame AMD for doing it as they are in the business of selling cards but it seems to me everything is loaded in the R9 290Xs favour on a setup that produces results that are totally useless to everyone.
 
It's just not fair to directly compare your competitors cards on your own terms. Who even knows what drivers the 780 machine was running. It's all getting a bit unwieldy lol :D
 
Good find. I can understand Nvidia users trying to write the results off as false. Let hope they're true. I reckon they will be. :)

Come on mate, there's no need to classify people as "Nvidia users" just because they are casting doubt on the results. That kind of putting people into groups just causes AMD vs nVidia wars :p.

I know what you're saying completely... just disagree with the nVidia user categorisation.
 
I want to believe those bench results we are seeing but all this cloak and dagger crap just makes me very dubious.

A lot of smoke and mirrors with this release for sure.

Looking forward to legit reviews, is the NDA over now? Or NDA on NDA still in place?

I want to know more about the different bios modes, how much more powerful is the non quiet mode...
 
Was hoping for a Titan beater at a reasonable price so I could flog my Titan before the NDA gets lifted.

Don't think that's a gamble i'm willing to take now.

They seem to be going up against the 780.
 
It's just not fair to directly compare your competitors cards on your own terms. Who even knows what drivers the 780 machine was running. It's all getting a bit unwieldy lol :D

Fair in a cut throat pirate business?
once the cards are out OC properly we find out what they can do.

Price will be a good thing if they set the 290x vs the 780 and the 290 in between the 280x and 290x, then a 290 pro is my card hands down.
No plank needed
 
Come on mate, there's no need to classify people as "Nvidia users" just because they are casting doubt on the results. That kind of putting people into groups just causes AMD vs nVidia wars :p.

I know what you're saying completely... just disagree with the nVidia user categorisation.

Haha what else would i call people with a Nvidia card? Not saying they are the only people with doubts though. But i can understand them trying to write it off, id probably do the same if the gpu was on the other pci-e slot, so to speak. ;)
 
Come on mate, there's no need to classify people as "Nvidia users" just because they are casting doubt on the results. That kind of putting people into groups just causes AMD vs nVidia wars :p.

I know what you're saying completely... just disagree with the nVidia user categorisation.

LtMatt only sees in Red and Green, there is no inbetween :p

Juts for the record, I have more AMD GPU's than Nvidia ones.

GTX 780
HD 7950 3GB
HD 7850 2GB
5800K 'IGP'
 
AMD is having a field day. Laughing their behinds off at all this chaos and uncertainty. They are getting what they want.. Press coverage. It is the oldest trick in the book and no one thought AMD would use such tactics as we are use to them just bending over and asking for permission to spread their buttcheeks.
 
id like see one clear graph that doesnt contradict itself on the same setup
until then its boring delay tactics

maybe they just suck at doing benchmarks, i duno its not information tho
 
AMD is having a field day. Laughing their behinds off at all this chaos and uncertainty. They are getting what they want.. Press coverage. It is the oldest trick in the book and no one thought AMD would use such tactics as we are use to them just bending over and asking for permission to spread their buttcheeks.

Lol. Not what i needed to be reading as i tuck into a sausage sandwich. :eek: :p
 
+1

I don't blame AMD for doing it as they are in the business of selling cards but it seems to me everything is loaded in the R9 290Xs favour on a setup that produces results that are totally useless to everyone.

Agreed and if I was working for AMD, I wouldn't mind having a fiddle prior to letting people in to see what can be done and refusing to allow then to see what is what.

Greg as a rep:"hey, come look at these bench results"
Reviewer: "wow that is awesome and clearly beats the other card it is going against can we see the settings and GPU-Z verification on both systems please?"
Greg as a rep: "nope!"
Reviewer: "Can I look under the table with the cloth that goes all the way to the floor?"
Greg as a rep: "Nope!"
Reviewer: "I notice you are using a stock cooler and different ram on the Nvidia's 3960X CPU and MSI board, care to explain"
Greg as a rep: "Nope! now take this envelope and I look forward to your 'favorable' review"
Reviewer: "Sure thing and I look forward to the next time we meet"

Probably nothing like that at all and I just made myself look daft :D
 
I'd be concerned, as a retailer, about the longevity of these cards at those temps tbh.

9800X2 anyone?

It's too close to call but smaller die at those temperatures are even more likely to suffer failure. There is no doubt that the card will remain to function at 95C but the principle of target temperatures is a fairly loose one. In Crossfire configuration, you will definitely be seeing during the warmer months these cards hitting the 100C barrier I'd imagine.

All will become apparent once there are some proper tests run.
 
Always at your service Matt ;)

Please be female. :p

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