AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

VincentHanna · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:32

Yeah we should definitely take in to account the need to overclock a near £1000 card to match one half the price.

Martini1991 · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:35

They've packed in a lot of performance there.
But how much will AMD be making on these?
The 290 pro may actually have potential to be a very decent card.

Kaapstad · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:35

VincentHanna said:
Yeah we should definitely take in to account the need to overclock a near £1000 card to match one half the price.

You mean an £827 card that has already given 7 months of solid service.

Besty · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:35

Kaapstad said:
The Titan has a lot of overclocking headroom up it's sleeve.

well, one things for sure, I am not going to risk 4 of these in my rig without a chiller :>

Kaapstad · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:36

Besty said:
well, one things for sure, I am not going to risk 4 of these in my rig without a chiller :>

That reminds me, I have to go and order some waterblocks.

Bye.

etched Chaos · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:38

Kaapstad said:
The Titan has a lot of overclocking headroom up it's sleeve.

Quad 290x's>Quad Titans at 1435mhz vs 1446mhz

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quadfired 290X already scored 68,848 Graphics score @ 1435MHz vs 61,258 Graphics score @ 1446MHz for Quad-SLI Titans under a 3D Mark Performance run.

LtMatt · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:39

Kaapstad said:
The Titan has a lot of overclocking headroom up it's sleeve.

What about without using hacks or bios flash though which invalidates warranty?

flopper · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:40

VincentHanna said:
Yeah we should definitely take in to account the need to overclock a near £1000 card to match one half the price.

at 4k resolution that might not be enough.
its "the" card for eyefinity though.

Ltmatt is having fever.... :eek:

Rusty0611 · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:42

LtMatt said:
What about without using hacks or bios flash though which invalidates warranty?

Bios can be flashed back and the AB hack is purely software based. The bios just removes the boost aspect for locking your clock speed in.

strid1 · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:44

I see that a 750w PSU is recommended. I will have the following:

Intel 4770k OC'd to 4.4ghz
AMD r9 290x
8 gb RAM
Samsung 840 pro 256GB SSD
Samsung 1TB HD
BD-ROM
Corsair H60 cooler
3 x 140mm fans

All running on XFX 750W XXX Pro Silver (believe it's the Seasonic one).

I'm pretty new to OC'ing but if I chose to with this GPU would that PSU be Ok?

LtMatt · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:45

Rusty0611 said:
Bios can be flashed back and the AB hack is purely software based. The bios just removes the boost aspect for locking your clock speed in.

You still have the risk of bricking a card though and if anything bad happens warranty potentially gone. Not everyone will have the confidence to bios flash and take a risk like that with a £800-£1k gpu.

flopper · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:47

strid1 said:
I see that a 750w PSU is recommended. I will have the following:

All running on XFX 750W XXX Pro Silver (believe it's the Seasonic one).

I'm pretty new to OC'ing but if I chose to with this GPU would that PSU be Ok?

yes, no problems.
750w recomended and what you need is different.

LtMatt said:
You still have the risk of bricking a card though and if anything bad happens warranty potentially gone. Not everyone will have the confidence to bios flashing and take a risk like that with a £800-£1k gpu.

Yea amd just invalidated every Titan/780 buy with that card and price.
its just rediculed Titan.

LtMatt · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:48

flopper said:
Yea amd just invalidated every Titan/780 buy with that card and price.
its just rediculed Titan.

Lol. You won't get away with that one.

SS-89 · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:49

flopper said:
yes, no problems.
750w recomended and what you need is different.

Yea amd just invalidated every Titan/780 buy with that card and price.
its just rediculed Titan.

Titan? Yh definitely but 780? No especially for those of us that purchased one for less than £500.

Steampunk · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:49

Martini1991 said:
They've packed in a lot of performance there.
But how much will AMD be making on these?
The 290 pro may actually have potential to be a very decent card.

Tahiti is a smaller die, so AMD have more margin than Nvidia, hence the ability to sell at a lower price. Smaller die also means better yield, which also increases profitability.

strid1 · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:52

flopper said:
yes, no problems.
750w recomended and what you need is different.

Thanks a lot

Rusty0611 · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:53

flopper said:
Yea amd just invalidated every Titan/780 buy with that card and price.
its just rediculed Titan.

It's almost as 'ridiculous' as your spelling.

But seriously though, give over with the fanboy stuff. It's just going to cause arguments. The price of this card is great but it reflects the length of time the 780 and Titan have already been on the market.

Oh and my 780 was only £40 more than a 290X, I've had it in service for months and when it's overclocked it's going to be identical ish performance to a similarly air OC'd 290X unless the temperature of them doesn't increase when overclocking

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So no it didn't really invalidate my purchase and nVidia are able to react on pricing if they feel threatened. They have more flexibility on price as well than AMD at the moment by virtue of having been on the market for considerably longer.

Kaapstad · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:57

etched Chaos said:
Quad 290x's>Quad Titans at 1435mhz vs 1446mhz .

These scores are dependant on the CPU overclock

Running that bench 4 Titans bottleneck very badly.

Lets see how a single R9 290X goes on LN2.

I would also like to see some 290Xs on the Heaven 4 bench, more so using Hi Rez settings (1440p or 1600p) as this really tests for GPU grunt.

Steampunk · 24 Oct 2013 at 08:58

Rusty0611 said:
Exactly the point. In reference to market perception that illustrates both the effect of being late to market and being perceived to be a lesser brand.

I should be clarify before I get jumped on by the AMD trumpet blowing crew: I know the average clued up enthusiast doesn't see them this way and they have actually had a stonkingly good series with the 7000 series but I'm purely referring to market perception.

I doubt most of "the market" are interested in £400+ high performance gaming cards.

Nvidia get away with charges silly money for boutique cards like the Titan because they don't sell many of them. In fact, the ridiculous price is what gives it's it's exclusivity, as it's performance delta isn't worth such a massive price hike.

Rusty0611 · 24 Oct 2013 at 09:00

Steampunk said:
I doubt most of "the market" are interested in £400+ high performance gaming cards.

Nvidia get away with charges silly money for boutique cards like the Titan because they don't sell many of them. In fact, the ridiculous price is what gives it's it's exclusivity, as it's performance delta isn't worth such a massive price hike.

The price reflects what the market is willing to pay. It's as simple as that.