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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

I never had a reference 7970, but my Asus 7970 DirectCUII would rarely get above 60C full out, with also going from 925MHz reference to 1125MHz, and with the fans barely audible. A three slot cooler, but an enormous difference in temps and noise, even with much higher clocks.

Yeah, a good beefy one like that or a triple fan cooler should be worthwhile.
 
**UPDATE**

Hynix and Elpida are both just as good as each other.

I took my Elpida card which could only do 5700MHz, flashed the Asus BIOS to it, pumped up the voltage and now the Elpida card is matching with 6600MHz. :)

So there you go, Elpida, Hynix, it don't matter. What matters is voltage control. ;)

Asus BIOS FTW. :D

By the way this is an R290 I've flashed with R290X BIOS, works a tread, but shaders not unlocked, but can now hit 1220 core and 6600 RAM on the regular R290 as well. At these speeds this also obliverates Titan. Incredible value!

Standard R290 beats Titan when OC?

Now I'm intrigued, certainly a lot of choice out there at the moment.
 
**UPDATE**

Hynix and Elpida are both just as good as each other.

I took my Elpida card which could only do 5700MHz, flashed the Asus BIOS to it, pumped up the voltage and now the Elpida card is matching with 6600MHz. :)

So there you go, Elpida, Hynix, it don't matter. What matters is voltage control. ;)

Asus BIOS FTW. :D

By the way this is an R290 I've flashed with R290X BIOS, works a tread, but shaders not unlocked, but can now hit 1220 core and 6600 RAM on the regular R290 as well. At these speeds this also obliverates Titan. Incredible value!

:eek::eek::eek:
shut the front door!
 
Hopefully the third party coolers will save the 290X some embarrassment and run cooler than 95C.

You have to see the hypocrisy, if Nvidia launched a hot card they would be flamed (See GTX 480)

AMD launch a 95C GPU and suddenly 95C is no problem, yeah great temps.

Logic has gone out of the window with this launch.

You are really reaching Boom. Finding faults is one thing but harping on and on about the same thing, cherry picking parts of reviews that support your argument and constantly refering back to the two review sites that are very negative about the 290x is getting very tiresome.

Most of the review sites give the 290x an award despite having high temps and noise. This alone should show how good AMD have done with this card, that even sites with a known Nvidia bias can give it an award.

And if you look at the results, take the Furmark benchmark. There is only 10 degrees between a reference 780 and the 290x in ubermode.

Now take a look a the 480 that you are so fond of mentioning as an example of Nvidia getting slated for high temps. Well, lets take a look at why it was getting slated. It wasn't much faster than the 5870. It was over 20 degrees hotter at loads. The 480 also used over 100watts more power than the 5870, heck it used more power than the 5970, a dual gpu!! It was all these things and still cost around £100 more than the 5870. And you also got to remember that the 480 was on a die shrink as welll.

So you example doesn't really support your argument in anyway. In fact it highlights how durable GPU's are. There are 480's still around today working fine.
 
You are really reaching Boom. Finding faults is one thing but harping on and on about the same thing, cherry picking parts of reviews that support your argument and constantly refering back to the two review sites that are very negative about the 290x is getting very tiresome.

yes, and it's exactly as tiresome as when the AMD crowd do the same all over Nvidia releases, but it still happens :D
 
Now take a look a the 480 that you are so fond of mentioning as an example of Nvidia getting slated for high temps. Well, lets take a look at why it was getting slated. It wasn't much faster than the 5870. It was over 20 degrees hotter at loads. The 480 also used over 100watts more power than the 5870, heck it used more power than the 5970, a dual gpu!! It was all these things and still cost around £100 more than the 5870. And you also got to remember that the 480 was on a die shrink as welll.

So you example doesn't really support your argument in anyway. In fact it highlights how durable GPU's are. There are 480's still around today working fine.

The issues with the 480 are more about comparing to what else is available.

THe 5870 was available 5-6 months earlier, was cheaper, was almost as fast, was widely available. I never had a problem with the actual heat or temp of the 480gtx, but it was louder, and more importantly used a huge amount of extra power for very little extra performance.

The 290x is more power efficient than the 7970, Titan, the 780, basically everything. 10W more power than a 7970, or what 5% more power, for 40% more performance?

If it's 40% more power for 5% more performance that becomes an issue, not the power or heat but the comparison of power heat to the cards around it.

But again that was just one of many reasons to mock the 480gtx, and the least important and everyone said so at the time. The fact it was released 3 separate times and then still took a few weeks to appear, cost more, wasn't much faster, used more power and was noisier are simply facts, in comparison these were worse than the competition. More power/worse power efficiency means higher cost to run, higher temps don't mean higher cost to run.

The 290x is a significant improvement in power efficiency from the previous AMD cards, who cares about the temp.

If it ran at 60C but used 50% more power to run 25% faster I'd bash the 290x, but this is clearly not the case.
 
The 290x is more power efficient than the 7970, Titan, the 780, basically everything. 10W more power than a 7970, or what 5% more power, for 40% more performance?


The 290x is a significant improvement in power efficiency from the previous AMD cards, who cares about the temp.

If it ran at 60C but used 50% more power to run 25% faster I'd bash the 290x, but this is clearly not the case.

Forgive me for being rude, but your spouting off more ****

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290X/28.html
 
Been waiting for this, while the performance is definitely impressive, the cooler is just horrible imho.....The only thing to do is to put it under water straight off, or wait till custom coolers get released and hopefully they will put the card at decent temps.

Maybe anyone heard anything around how long it will take for that to happen till we see TF, DCU and some other coolers in the market?

Heard that it might take few months till AMD allows it to happen, is that actually true, since atm the card doesn't seem all that appealing apart from the performance tbh.....
 
While its obviously a good card amd once again have proved whoever engineers their coolers must spend most of their time whacking off to penguin porn. It really does boggle the mind how they can throw out iteration after iteration of essentially the same kind of cooler since the 5 series and proclaim in marketing videos that the cards run cool and quiet (see 6990 tech vid for evidence of this). Seems they didn't make that claim with this card but it really seems to be a half assed attempt.

Wasn't there word doing the rounds that other companies were designing coolers and submitting them to amd to have it become the cooler for this card? What happened there?
 
The 290x is more power efficient than the 7970, Titan, the 780, basically everything. 10W more power than a 7970, or what 5% more power, for 40% more performance?

If it's 40% more power for 5% more performance that becomes an issue, not the power or heat but the comparison of power heat to the cards around it.

It's not more efficient than the Titan. The performance is neck and neck, and the Titan is running cooler and quieter. And looking better :cool:
 
I'm grabbing a 290. Hopefully, they'll be cooler & quieter. No doubt cheaper too.

I'm slightly refreshing my rig atm so I don't need the full whack GPU

I think for general gaming you could take a bit of voltage out of it and have Excellent performance and temps ;) and crank it back up to play benchmarks :)
 
Not to burst peoples bubbles but is it just me or is anyone else thinking that water cooling is a must for these reference 290X's? Those temps alone do put me off (and I know AMD have stated this is within the cards working parameters) but the noise is a no no.

Custom cooled cards for the noise and heat conscious among us and reference for those who don't care about heat and noise because they are water cooling.

It's virtually essential if you ask me Greg.
I don't even think that many of the 3rd party coolers are going to be much cop tbh.
 
While its obviously a good card amd once again have proved whoever engineers their coolers must spend most of their time whacking off to penguin porn.

They wanted to hit that magical price point that undercuts the Nvidia card by a good amount, I guess the cooler had to be sacrificed to do so.

They basically done what Nvidia did to the with the cheaply made 680, this caused 7970 prices to tumble, hopefully it will have the same affect on Nvidia and lower prices all round.
 
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