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AMD RADEON RX 470 SERIES NOW AVAILABLE FROM £164.99 DELIVERED!!

Whoever sets the prices for these cards needs to be sacked. The 470 should be in the range of £160 base and £180 max for the custom cards.
Maybe Brexit has caused the price situation in the UK but it's still overpriced in other countries.
 
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I feel for AMD as Nvidia are just laughing at them there's nothing AMD can currently do. Nvidia always has the upper hand whatever AMD releases that can risk an Nvidia product nvidia will release something better. the 470 is no threat to Nvidia for an extra £20-£50 you can get a GTX 1060 which offers more Vram compared to the 4gb model and much better performance.
 
Gibbo said:
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I am really wondering if these RX 470's are just RX 480's that do not meet the grade, the only difference seems to be 4 compute unit lobbed off.

I'd not be surprised even if those Nitro cards are simply not failed 480 Nitro's that failed OC or something.

Something is fishy, those buying the Nitro's should try flashing the Nitro 480 BIOS to them to see if the extra cores unlock or not. ;)
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Like a fisherman with a lure...

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Tommy_Here said:
I feel for AMD as Nvidia are just laughing at them there's nothing AMD can currently do. Nvidia always has the upper hand whatever AMD releases that can risk an Nvidia product nvidia will release something better. the 470 is no threat to Nvidia for an extra £20-£50 you can get a GTX 1060 which offers more Vram compared to the 4gb model and much better performance.
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You can also get a RX480 with 8gb Vram. I would personally buy the RX480 Aib versions over the gtx1060 due to DX12 and Vulkan being the future of gaming.
 
just having a quick look on overclockers site:

Radeon r9 390 8gb £229.99
Radeon rx 470 8gb £218.99

for an extra tenner I know what I'd definitely rather have, one card being a solid 1440p card whilst the other can just about manage 1080p meh.
 
Tommy_Here said:
I feel for AMD as Nvidia are just laughing at them there's nothing AMD can currently do. Nvidia always has the upper hand whatever AMD releases that can risk an Nvidia product nvidia will release something better. the 470 is no threat to Nvidia for an extra £20-£50 you can get a GTX 1060 which offers more Vram compared to the 4gb model and much better performance.
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Or you can get an RX 480 which offers more VRAM and much better performance. But that doesn't fit the narrative. ;)

An extra £50 won't get you even the cheapest 1060 on the market, incidentally. You're looking at an extra £65 for the cheapest model, which is going to be a lot of money for somebody looking at a card in this price range.
 
TheRealDeal said:
You can also get a RX480 with 8gb Vram. I would personally buy the RX480 Aib versions over the gtx1060 due to DX12 and Vulkan being the future of gaming.
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some people don't buy for the future like me, I buy for NOW and currently the 1060 offers better performance, only recently have the amd cards back in 2013 pushed past their competitors 290x > 780 Ti. no one has a crystal ball and in till dx21 etc becomes mainstream only then we'll see the true benefits.
 
Aretak said:
Or you can get an RX 480 which offers more VRAM and much better performance. But that doesn't fit the narrative. ;)

An extra £50 won't get you even the cheapest 1060 on the market, incidentally. You're looking at an extra £65 for the cheapest model, which is going to be a lot of money for somebody looking at a card in this price range.
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£164.99 for cheapest 470 4gb
£229.99 for cheapest 1060 6gb
so yes why I partly agree the extra £65 is going to be quite a jump for someone in this price range, however when you look at the 8gb 470 for £218.99
with 8gb Vram whilst it has more Vram do you honestly think it's got the horse power to fully utilize the 8gb framebuffer? so in that regard the 8gb version at close to £220 is horrible value. the 4gb card I can be a little more lenient with.
 
Tommy_Here said:
some people don't buy for the future like me, I buy for NOW and currently the 1060 offers better performance, only recently have the amd cards back in 2013 pushed past their competitors 290x > 780 Ti. no one has a crystal ball and in till dx21 etc becomes mainstream only then we'll see the true benefits.
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It's not only been recently it's been for a good year or more now. You don't need a crystal ball as there is evidence right now showing that GCN is better going forward. Even in Dx11 the RX480 is close enough to the 1060 for there to be no real difference. Voltage control is still to come where i would say the RX480 might just have enough in the tank to be on par in DX11 but way faster in dx12/Vulkan.
 
Tommy_Here said:
£164.99 for cheapest 470 4gb
£229.99 for cheapest 1060 6gb
so yes why I partly agree the extra £65 is going to be quite a jump for someone in this price range, however when you look at the 8gb 470 for £218.99
with 8gb Vram whilst it has more Vram do you honestly think it's got the horse power to fully utilize the 8gb framebuffer? so in that regard the 8gb version at close to £220 is horrible value. the 4gb card I can be a little more lenient with.
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Well yes, the 8GB card is horrendous value and nobody should consider buying one. It'd be outright madness to buy one when a 480 is the same price.
 
Aretak said:
Well yes, the 8GB card is horrendous value and nobody should consider buying one. It'd be outright madness to buy one when a 480 is the same price.
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Maybe that's the plan. The yields may be low so AMD might be hoping people would opt for a 480 rather than pay around the same for a 470.
 
Doom112 said:
So AMD says that they need to wait for DX12 and level tons of Dx11 behind. That is your best justification to buy these cards?
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Dx11 performance is fine in pretty much all of the latest games. RX480 Nitro v 1060 gaming. It was only released yesterday so the AMD cards and Nvidia cards are on the latest drivers.
 
Tommy_Here said:
some people don't buy for the future like me, I buy for NOW and currently the 1060 offers better performance, only recently have the amd cards back in 2013 pushed past their competitors 290x > 780 Ti. no one has a crystal ball and in till dx21 etc becomes mainstream only then we'll see the true benefits.
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That's the thing that needs to be included in any decision, How far away is it until the majority of titles are pushing DX12 or Vulkan because chances are there'll be another gpu upgrade between now and then for many of us.

This sort of lacklustre release really does bring AMD's short to mid term gpu future into question for me, They're clearly unable to compete with mid or high end and they appear to have nothing great on offer where they have released cards so how long will it be until they can get there act together and offer compelling products again?
 
To be honest it feels like the only purpose of these cards is to cash in on those too impatient to wait for the 480.

I don't see why they just didn't make less 470s and more 480s

I expect Gibbo is right something went wrong with these cards and they failed to meet 480 standards rather than lock loads of cores off they decide to get out as much as possible from them charge a little less and say "look how good these are"

I would call these a B grade 480 rather than a 470.
 
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