Which resulted in it being locked moments ago, in the end.So with AMD saying that the 7900XTX is a 4080 competitor, does that therefore mean the lower stack isn't going to be as cheap as people hoped it would be? Ironically, the RDNA3 rumours thread has become overrun with nVidia fans arguing with themselves
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What's the max price you would consider paying for these cards btw considering its $999 and we tend to get rinsed?
Impossible to answer for me, as it all depends on actual real life independent benchmarks in actual games. That will reveal it's actual worth.
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Yeh I guess that's fair, until December we just can't know.
I'll probably go to £1100 higher and 2nd hand stuff starts become attractive.
Unless the AIBs really smash it with OC and performance but December can't come quick enough!!
I mean, initially I wanted to get 4090 FE (and not a penny more), but it wasn't possible (still not in stock). Which means even £1100 is still way within my reach, however I prefer to pay less than more, if it's quick enough in things I need it to be quick. In my case I care 0 for productivity tasks (sans maybe rarely encoding some videos in hardware) and want normal desktop use (watching videos and gaming) to perform properly. Regarding 2nd hand - I already have 3080Ti currently and it's fine, but raster could be faster in 1440p UW high refresh (175Hz OLED) in quite a few games. I can still sell this one well and add a bit to new GPU.
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Ah yeh, i did check the 2nd hand prices on my 1080ti that wont add much now it's going for under £200 these days.
I agree with less is more for me it's less about not wanting to pay more but i wont pay more on principle if prices are scalped It works out at around £1050 with tax after conversion if the base price is well over £1100 i'm gonna tag out i'm not going to be taken for a ride. I do expect there to be some reference prices for some cards I know Sapphie have done that in the past.
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A lot depends of how much they produced this time, and how much they care about UK with stock. AMD did not have a great amount of stock on previous GPUs in UK, but supposedly they secured much more production capacity this time, plus with chiplets they are even less reliant on capacity of best process in TSMC, which means even easier for them to produce large numbers of these GPUs. Fingers crossed that will mean good availability AND pricing in UK.
That said, I applaud your approach to these things, we should never let corpo take us for a ride. One of the reasons my focus shifted almost fully from 4090 to 7900XTX now.
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A lot depends of how much they produced this time, and how much they care about UK with stock. AMD did not have a great amount of stock on previous GPUs in UK, but supposedly they secured much more production capacity this time, plus with chiplets they are even less reliant on capacity of best process in TSMC, which means even easier for them to produce large numbers of these GPUs. Fingers crossed that will mean good availability AND pricing in UK.
That said, I applaud your approach to these things, we should never let corpo take us for a ride. One of the reasons my focus shifted almost fully from 4090 to 7900XTX now.
It's more I can't afford to be taken for a ride, i have enough to go for a 4090 if i wanted, the problem is i need to replace my FridgeFreezer and buy a Tumble Dryer this year as both have kicked the bucket (come on black friday hurry up!) Not dying off food poisoning and not smelling like a wet dog are more important than a GPU!!
But i'm still willing to stretch the budget, a good AIB i may go up to £1200 but I do need to be sensible, at £1200+ it starts getting into the territory where other products start to become more attractive.
I am aiming at MBA card - these AMD coolers seem to be quite good and silent, plus very well done structurally (no sagging etc.), as we've seen in 6k series. They should also be for MSRP and not more expensive like many AIB likely will be.
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I'm pretty indifferent, i'd Prefer a Sapphire card if possible, I have had good expeirence with them in the past. With everyting else, considering the power draw and size of the cooler in general i'm not anticipating it runs as hot as the 4090 or anything, so i'm not too fussed about the cooler itself i only play games with headphones on too so it's a minor thing for me.
Oh, my point was bit different - if MBA has good enough cooler (it does), then I see no sense paying more for AIB, unless price is very close and AIB offers something better than MBA. Usually MBA ones are the cheapest.
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Ah yeh I see, but if the AIB slaps on another 8pin and does something magical I might be interested. But I would be looking at a reference design initially same as you gotta give me a few of those USPs to get me on board haha.
I'm actually worried about some of AMD's numbers. Not the charts with the multipliers but for the charts which had actual fps numbers because they say "up to" and them give fps. Normally in all other reviews data when you they show something as up to with the framerate that means the Max framerate over a period of time, not Average. So if AMD wasn't showing us averages then the performance is a bit lower than most people expect because every comparison I've seen to last Gen rdna2 and even against Nvidia people have been taking rdna3 numbers as average fps when it could be max fps. There should be a note to explain this from amd but the presentation slide doesn't include the mentioned notes they are missing, actually a lot of AMD's notes in the slide pack are missing or have errors upon examination
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Unknown but the other litmus test is how well the architecture runs Unreal Engine 5.
Having Callisto Protocol as one of the first AMD 7900 XTX makes sense as if they can get that UE5 game running well, it sets the tone for the next 5 years.
If UE5 runs like greased lightning on the 7900XTX it makes the $999 tag easier to swallow.
I still think the mobile 7800XT part inside a gaming laptop will be the star of the show.
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A lot of the charts were also against the 6950xt and were 1.5 to 1.7x better so you can gauge performance from that. If it's on average 1.6x faster then it's plenty fast.
I don't think they're doing anything nearly as stupid as posting max fps.
You post max fps it could be ENOURMOUSLY higher than any average and would look horrific the instant the first 3rd party bench was posted.
No, I think they are saying the average fps is improved and since they did a range of games and the best average fps in one game improved by 1.7x so they use the term up to 1.7x when talking about the whole group of tested games.
Anything other than that would generate completely unnecessary mockery and bad feeling.
I see you said not the multiplier ones but point is still the same, why set themselves up to be humiliated for free.
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