Caporegime
Are we at the point where we are now so used to Nvidia BS that we are accepting of it and instead direct our frustration at AMD?
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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event
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Are we at the point where we are now so used to Nvidia BS that we are accepting of it and instead direct our frustration at AMD?
Caporegime
Both companies are crap, but Nvidia has the crown for performance
Caporegime
I get that but IMO there is more to it.
Caporegime
There's probably more hype about AMD coming up trumps once in a while, but it never happens and you end up in a cycle of disappointment, which because of how it comes about will be aimed at AMD.
Caporegime
That's people stupidity though, and yes i know i have been guilty of that stupidity.
Caporegime
My take is this:
The 7900XT is over priced, its a $750 GPU, not £900 that's a bad joke. Its also cynically named a 7900 series when what it actually is is a 7800XT.
The 7900XTX is fine, its the 6900XT replacement at the same money, i have no issue with that.
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RTX 4090, $100 more than the 3090 at $1600, ok fine that's not bad and it is a halo card, no problem with that.
RTX 4080 just like the 7900XT is overpriced, only even more so.
RTX 4070Ti, that's an RTX 4060Ti for 3080Ti money, utterly ###### disgusting!
The 7900XT is over priced, its a $750 GPU, not £900 that's a bad joke. Its also cynically named a 7900 series when what it actually is is a 7800XT.
The 7900XTX is fine, its the 6900XT replacement at the same money, i have no issue with that.
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RTX 4090, $100 more than the 3090 at $1600, ok fine that's not bad and it is a halo card, no problem with that.
RTX 4080 just like the 7900XT is overpriced, only even more so.
RTX 4070Ti, that's an RTX 4060Ti for 3080Ti money, utterly ###### disgusting!
Its not really a 6900XT replacement though as that competed with the 3090, the 7900XTX only competes with the 80 even by AMDs own admission so its still a price rise of $350 over their 80 competitor from last gen.
What would AMD have done if Nvidia had built the 4080 on a AD102 die and priced it at $700?
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Wow. When the likes of humbug think these products are priced right or only over priced by $100 or so, you know that these companies have done very well with conditioning people to the high prices.
Caporegime
I can't argue with that, you're right, i still don't think its "bad" costs have gone up and yes i'm wiling and have actually extended the same curtsey to Nvidia.
4090 fe is £200 more than a 3090 FE UK price at current price and that's after the price was adjusted down due to "currency exchange rates" 4090 FE was what originally £1689 ? So really £289 more than the 3090fe was at the original price.. so I have a problem with that and a problem it is missing NVLINK. Basically a downgrade for pro users at more money. The 4090 isn't as great a deal as some think even if it was £1400 like the 3090FE was.
4080,4070ti ... well i'm not even going to go there as they are a clear rip off compared to previous generation, doubling in price over 2 years..
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you could also say the 7900xtx is an 7800xt card because its competing with the 4080 , pretty sure thats what it would have been called if nvidia priced the 4080 to the traditional 80 tier pricing , difficult to pick out who is worse from AMD / Nvidia in this generation
Caporegime
So..
4090: $1499
4080: $599
4070Ti: $399
7900XTX $649
7900XT: $579
Beyond that...
4070: $349
4060Ti: $299
4060: $279
7800XT: $499
7800: $449
7700XT: $379
7700: $329
7600XT: $279
7600: $239
Yeah?
Soldato
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The problem is you're fine with the 7900xtx pricing and with 7900xt at theoretical $750 when AMD had high end prices much lower than that with more complex cards. So if you're fine with going up in pricing in some aspects, then you must accept all of it.
Problably closer to what they should have been, although that top end card is still too expensive.
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And Nvidia also have the undisputed crown for skulduggery with the others being rank amateurs in comparison!
Soldato
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If you're referring to presentation slides they're both guilty of that everyone seems to have forgotten the BS Nvidia pulled when it comes to the 4080 launch and claims made its buried in the now locked 4080 thread but its there people have either selective memories or very short ones
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Soldato
You missed the part where I pointed out why we had some good will toward AMD with respect to this stuff, so I'll repost it:
They had enough product launches where the products released met, and often exceeded, the promises AMD made before hand.
Then, with RDNA3, they basically said "Haha! You suckers should have read the fine print!"
Soldato
AMD cpus marketing department is fine. I might even say great. Always had been. It's the rtgi market dep that makes me throw up, it makes me not want to buy an amd card even if at some point they might end up being good.
Soldato
You want the 4070ti to be that much cheaper than the 7900xt? Lolwhy
