Shows you how underfunded AMDs marketing department is. Nvidia has one product “line” GPUs and employs nearly twice as much as Amd. Must be all those bots perusing around on the forums
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Shows you how underfunded AMDs marketing department is. Nvidia has one product “line” GPUs and employs nearly twice as much as Amd. Must be all those bots perusing around on the forums
I disagree with your first assessment. If a “worker”/job can benefit from powerful CPUs then they will probably also need the appropriate workstation graphics card to match.
For those building their own workstations unless they need the drivers they are getting the gaming line of GPUs. I saw a build recently where a 64 core threadripper build with around 256gb of ram (could have been more) was paired with dual 3090 with Nvlink. Could the afford the a series version? Yep but they didn’t need those drivers.
I partially disagree with your second assessment. I remember the ads around the time I built my first pc. It was all intel inside ads. Don’t bother with AMD unless you are going for a truly budget system. The average joe buying a computer would be looking for that fabled sticker.
Now look at how that perception has changed.
I don't understand why wanting the fastest card is seen as stupid? It's all a question of priorities and what you want to do with the cash. Both the 4090 and 7900XTX have their strengths and while pricing is one of the key factors, to someone who wants to enjoy the strengths of the 4090 it wouldn't matter what price AMD sets for the 7900XTX as it does not provide the features of the 4090 which is the deciding factor. Probably for some people, the price would be more important than that. But I don't think it's right to try and mock someone buying the most expensive card if it makes sense to that person given what's on offer.
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Just to interrupt they didn't say wanting the fastest card was stupid. They said the increases were stupid.
Yes for the 4080. I don't think the 4090 saw a unwarranted increase in price over the 3090. The jump in performance over the 3090 far outclasses the price increase. In some games it's almost twice as fast. In Cyberpunk for instance, we went from 47-48 fps minimums using RT Ultra and DLSS performance to 60 FPS min using RT Psycho and DLSS quality and even those drops are mostly in CPU bound areas.
For me, dropping over a grand on the 7900XTX and still having to compromise on high performance RT in games and a slightly inferior upscaling solution is more stupid than dropping £1,800 and maxing out all sliders and getting access to DLSS and FSR.
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You’ve done a good job in proving the other persons point. What if the 5090 is 70% faster than the 4090 and cost £2k will you still be performing mental gymnastics to justify why the price increase is fair? What about the card after that?
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The other post suggests RT isn't that important to most and do most people now have high refresh 4K monitors?
I wouldn't drop a grand let alone £1699 on a gpu , 4080 16gb should have been around £700 that's including AMD , couldn't care about the halo product but stupidly increasing the price going down the stack
Used to be a time they would tempt you to upgrade keeping the RRP while increasing performance
I wouldn't drop a grand let alone £1699 on a gpu , 4080 16gb should have been around £700 that's including AMD , couldn't care about the halo product but stupidly increasing the price going down the stack
Used to be a time they would tempt you to upgrade keeping the RRP while increasing performance
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Luxury watches have gone up massively in the last 10 years as well. Guess what, nobody needs one of them either. Buy a GPU or don't.
That will be decided by the sales of the 4090 which don't seem to be doing so well based on its stock levels. If people continue to buy it, Nvidia will continue raising prices until people perceive the price factor to be more important than the features gained.
My view on this is if I am dropping over a grand on any GPU be it AMD or Nvidia, it has to be the best. If it's not, may as well just not bother or save up until you can get the best. Why should I drop a grand and compromise on visual settings?
Also make no mistake, if AMD is targeting the 4080 with the 7900XTX, then the 7900XTX is really a 7800XT and 7900XT is really a 7800. So effectively they have raised prices by ~54% relative to 6800XT. The real 7900XTX is yet to be released. People just don't see it because in absolute terms nvidia is charging so much more.
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The lower tier cards are also looking to get price increases ?
It will be interesting to see the performance increase from the 3080 £650 to 4080 16gb £1269
That's the line of thinking I can follow on GPUs below £800. But it doesn't work on 1k GPUs. It should be able to do everything but the kitchen sink at that price. The 24GB of VRAM on these halo cards is overkill for most games out on the market and I don't care about it but it's still nice to have some headroom for future games. That's how I think about 1k GPUs.
I agree. The 4080 is an insult to the x80 performance tier. Hopefully Nvidia drops it to $899 where it belongs and give us the 4080 Ti in it's place.
they are huffing copium all day long and its given them brain damageListen to the lot of you justifying price increases from GPUs now priced out your reach, NV/AMD lapping up your money...
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I will never understand why having competitors divides people so much. Surely as a paying customer you should want as much competition as possible, and giving either company any credit where it's due is valid?
Nvidia have made a powerhouse of a card but are making a mockery of the user base with price and some silly decisions. AMD are making a very capable card with (probably) fantastic raw performance but with a few limitations at a much better price.
Buy what is best for you and your budget, whichever that may be.
Nvidia have made a powerhouse of a card but are making a mockery of the user base with price and some silly decisions. AMD are making a very capable card with (probably) fantastic raw performance but with a few limitations at a much better price.
Buy what is best for you and your budget, whichever that may be.
Not directed at you but we will be doing our best not to be locking threads going forward. The guilty party will be going straight to strike/suspension and then loss of access to the section. We have tried to let things flow with warnings but some think they are above it.....
