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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event
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I think the reference 7900XTX will be £1100.
AIB ones £100 to £400 more expensive than that but also up to 25% faster with board powers of up to 500 watts.
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The 3090 was a badly priced GPU so a price increase of a badly priced card now makes the 4090 a good price, is that what your saying?
So, for the 7700XT vs the 6700XT that's about 157% going by CB's index (cause using TPU would require calculating my own percentages - 'come on W1zzard get with the times and copy CB/PCGH/etc.s dynamic graphs!)
Less VRAM though hopefully a lot better perf/watt.
If 7800XT were to have a similalr +60% what would put it about 45% ahead of the 6900XT so a big gap.
Time will tell.
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Comparisons tend to get stretched I see. Although the msrp of nividia's top card is £1699, AIB 4080's are more than this.
There is a generalised assumption that everyone buys FE/reference models and that's it. If you average out the retail prices you might be shocked.
There is a generalised assumption that everyone buys FE/reference models and that's it. If you average out the retail prices you might be shocked.
Frank Azor said the reference ones are the base models, the slowest ones, its only up from there.
I've said it quite a few pages back i think AMD are going back to having real reference models that are small and efficient with plenty of headroom to give AIB's something real to differentiate themselves with in their own designs.
IMO they can easily clock to and past 3Ghz but using a lot more power, they will need those coolers that have been designed for the 4090.
I've said it quite a few pages back i think AMD are going back to having real reference models that are small and efficient with plenty of headroom to give AIB's something real to differentiate themselves with in their own designs.
IMO they can easily clock to and past 3Ghz but using a lot more power, they will need those coolers that have been designed for the 4090.
Incorrect, there is a great deal of interest in the £2k total build cost market, which is almost what you are paying for an RTX 4090 24GB, especially if you want anything other than an FE card.
Here's a build I have booked in for December once the new Radeon cards are available. 13th Gen Intel, 32GB DDR5, and 2TB NVMe with an 7900 XTX.
CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card
Case: KOLINK Citadel Mesh MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: ~£2000 in parts.
Right, its a bit like saying "if you're looking for a £500 GPU then you're willing to go to £650"
No, actually, that's not how it works, if i wanted a £650 GPU i would have bought a £650 GPU in the first place and that's probably what i would be looking for now, and not £800....
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Current 6xx0 prices are very convoluted. You can get a 6900XT for only £100 more than a 6800, yet the 6950 is £200 more expensive than the 6900XT and the 6800XT is so close to the 6900XT it makes it a terrible purchase. Though at least they are below MSRP in most cases. Nvidias 3x00 range of prices are still a joke.
Honestly at this point I would not purchase an Nvidia 3008Ti, or even some of thoese overpriced 3080s at those prices considering the 7900XT will be about £1000. You should get a lot more raster performance and RT should be about 3080 level.
Honestly at this point I would not purchase an Nvidia 3008Ti, or even some of thoese overpriced 3080s at those prices considering the 7900XT will be about £1000. You should get a lot more raster performance and RT should be about 3080 level.
No its not, it shows that people looking for a £1000 GPU wouldn't automatically jump to one at almost twice the cost. Did you even read the quote I replied to?
It's very much down to what nvidia have done this time round, 4090 "appears" to be much better value this time than what the 3090 offered (and obviously the performance jump from the 4090 in general is crazy all things considered), as the gap between the xx80 level card is significantly higher and not like it was with the 3080 vs 3090, where it was only 10-15% between the 3080 and 3090 and in some cases, even less than 10%.....
AMD have done much the same with jiggling the names about and they are technically increasing the price because of the name shuffle but since they are still significantly undercutting nvidia, it's not as big of a deal.
Either way, both are screwing over their customers, nvidia are just doing it significantly more than amd are.
Yeah, that's this idea that if you're looking for a GPU at a price level then you're willing to pay 20% more than what you're looking for.
No, i have 6750XT money for a GPU, right now sitting in my bank looking for a GPU, i don't want a 6750XT and i'm not spending the extra £100 for a 6800 because its still too expensive for what it is, even though i can.
I'll wait, i have waited for a year, i will wait another year for the next gen if i must or go second hand if i can get it with a decent warranty, which you can now.
I have gone from £270 to £450 for a ##70 class card / AMD equivalent. No more.
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We are...
Both the 3090 and 3090 Ti were halo cards meant to eke out every last bit of performance over the 3080 just like the Titans. They were only meant for buyers who wanted the best or for those who use that high VRAM for professional purposes. It's meant for a user base who would swap the 3090 for the Ti months down the line without batting an eye. In this context, how was the pricing any worse than the Titans?
The 3080 was the practical gaming flagship last generation which was around 10-15% slower than the 3090 and the 3080 Ti was also a good bit cheaper than the 3090 whilst being just 5% slower.
The x90 tier is meant for those who just wants the absolute best, efficiency and pricing being thrown out of the window.
It's virtually certain that Nvidia will come out with a 4080 Ti near the 7900XTX price point and performance, which many here say is value for money.
That's what I am expecting, they have somewhat gone back to their old pricing strategy to allow for the glory days of a true TI model by offering 4090 level of performance but with less vram and for cheaper.
Ideally the 4080 needs to drop to £1000-1100 (assuming it is somewhat matched with a 7900xtx in raster [as DF pointed out, the extrapolated graphs that people are doing could end up being different to real world results...] whilst excelling in other areas) and the 4080ti to come in at £1200-1300/1400
Yes, kinda my point. AMD 6x00 prices are so convoluted as to make buying a 6750XT at £450 a bit pointless because you can get a AIB 6800XT for about £100 more and have ~25% more performance and 4GB more VRAM. Or maybe you can save yourself ~£80 - £100 and get a 6700XT that is only marginally slower with the same amount of VRAM.
So while you may set yourself a £450 budget you start doubting yourself and call in the VFM for such an outlay considering how close the tier above and the tier below is.