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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event
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I just hope AMD have plenty of stock but I also wonder how far off the 7950 XTX will be post launch.
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It all sounds good in principle. Just have to wait until the 13th but it's killing me. I want to buy something now
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Soldato
Yeah as I've already said AMD have pulled an Nvidia just not taken the xxxx quite as much.
We can only hope they drop the price of 7900xt before release because as said in the video its going to be dead in the water on release at only $100 less than the xtx
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here in Denmark the price of the 4090 is around 18.000-20.000 DKK whereas if you go by MSRP without the insane tax we pay here, the price should have been around 11.000 DKK. Absolutely bonkers
Soldato
He's not wrong!
Well I guess that's a way of getting clicks - start a rumour, cancel a rumour.Absolutely nothing.
Rumour mongers saying the rumours are cancelled
I hear they cancelled the 7777GTI
Soldato
Like we found out last Gen the 6800 non xt was scarce and probably not wanted in hindsight by AMD. They probably realise trickling out the sku's like nvidia is a better tactic so I would think they will maybe release a 7800XT next year after they have left the 900's to hang out there long enough.
Well I guess that's a way of getting clicks - start a rumour, cancel a rumour.
I hear they cancelled the 7777GTI
I think it was Frank Azor on an interview about a week ago, they tried to get him to snitch about products lower down than the 7900's and he refused to say a word.
Everyone claiming otherwise is fantasising with zero or partial scraps of information which add up to nothing solid.
Soldato
I think the 7900xtx was meant to be a 4090 competitor and the 7900xt was meant to release as the 7800xt originally. But when Nvidia unveiled the 4090 it performed better than AMD expected (as many rumours said) which in turn cause AMD to say its a 4080 competitor. They probably kept the 7900 name as boxes and card designs would have already been designed and produced. May get 7900xtx boxes with a sticker for the second X
7900xt which would have been a 7800xt is prices poorly thanks to Nvidias terrible 4080 16gb prices. It's allowed AMD to release a card with similar or better performance for $899
Soldato
If the sticker thing was present then that would be correct. Hard to say what was happening but definitely fishy.
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The whole 4089 or 4090 competitor thing seems kind of irrelevant.I think the 7900xtx was meant to be a 4090 competitor and the 7900xt was meant to release as the 7800xt originally. But when Nvidia unveiled the 4090 it performed better than AMD expected (as many rumours said) which in turn cause AMD to say its a 4080 competitor. They probably kept the 7900 name as boxes and card designs would have already been designed and produced. May get 7900xtx boxes with a sticker for the second X
7900xt which would have been a 7800xt is prices poorly thanks to Nvidias terrible 4080 16gb prices. It's allowed AMD to release a card with similar or better performance for $899
AMD decided on a target level of performance probably 2 years ago. The 7900xt/x fits in where it fits and is being priced accordingly. AMD is simply saying they intended the part to sit at roughly the same performance level that the 4080 happens to occupy.
And to be fair the 4090 is an absolute monster. 76B transistors is no joke, a 3x increase vs. last gen.
Proper benchmarks for the 4080 and 7900 are all that matter now. It is unclear how this will shake out, particularly in terms of RT performance.
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Soldato
I think the 7900xtx was meant to be a 4090 competitor and the 7900xt was meant to release as the 7800xt originally. But when Nvidia unveiled the 4090 it performed better than AMD expected (as many rumours said) which in turn cause AMD to say its a 4080 competitor. They probably kept the 7900 name as boxes and card designs would have already been designed and produced. May get 7900xtx boxes with a sticker for the second X
7900xt which would have been a 7800xt is prices poorly thanks to Nvidias terrible 4080 16gb prices. It's allowed AMD to release a card with similar or better performance for $899
I think you are right about them probably being aimed at the 4080 and 4090.
I am a little uncertain why NVIDIA went for such a high performance with the 4090. It seems too high, especially when you consider that the reset of the PC can't really keep up. It also highlights just what poor value the 4080 is. Even AMD seem to be in a mess though because the $900 and $1000 prices seem just too close together. Anyone with enough to afford a 4080 would surely go for a 4090, and anyone with enough for a 7900xt would surely go for the 7900xtx. It's all a bit odd.
Anyway, I am still following "plan B" which is to snub NVIDIA and get a 7900xtx. Just waiting for the reviews to see if it's a worthwhile move.
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Unfortunately it's a long wait until the 13th of December to see how it potentially fills the gap between the 4080 and 4090 and it may be a lot harder to get stock later on.
The thing is AMD do have an option to lower prices on the 7900XT by $100 - $150 and look good. Now at first glance this seems contradictory, because I have been saying Nvidia can't drop 4080 prices or they would look bad. The key difference is that Jensen has painted himself into a corner by claiming (wrongly IMHO), that the reason 4080 is so expensive is down to TSMC, that "Moore's law is dead" and that we need to get used to these prices.
We have a scenario where the 4080 joke edition has been "unlaunched", and this already left a bad optic on Nvidia among the PC press (and enthusiasts). How much worse will it look after all of Jensen's 'get used to these prices' crap, if he reduces the 4080 price?
Obvioulsy a lower price is good for consumers, but how it comes about can leave a sour taste.
We have a scenario where the 4080 joke edition has been "unlaunched", and this already left a bad optic on Nvidia among the PC press (and enthusiasts). How much worse will it look after all of Jensen's 'get used to these prices' crap, if he reduces the 4080 price?
Obvioulsy a lower price is good for consumers, but how it comes about can leave a sour taste.
It's a halo product. The intention is to make you think "nVidia make the best GPU, therefore nVidia GPUs are the best". It doesn't have to be a card that makes sense for end-users to buy, or even sell at all (though there seem to be plenty of customers for the 4090 at the moment). This generation in particular, they probably needed to be able to show a card that's fast at raytracing, whatever the cost. That's part of the reason why they manage to sell more GPUs at lower performance tiers, even during the times when the equivalent AMD cards are better.