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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

humbug said:
Its the same price as that SKU of the last gen.
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It is the same price as last year based purely on the name, 6900 to 7900 etc. The probem I have is that previously the 6900 series was competing with the 3090. Now AMD as saying the 7900XTX is competing with the 4080 16GB. Their previous 3080 competitor had a RRP of $649.99 not $999.99
 
SpudMaster said:
It is the same price as last year based purely on the name, 6900 to 7900 etc. The probem I have is that previously the 6900 series was competing with the 3090. Now AMD as saying the 7900XTX is competing with the 4080 16GB. Their previous 3080 competitor had a RRP of $649.99 not $999.99
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Because they don't want you to think of it as a crap 4090, they want to to think of it as a better 4080.
 
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SpudMaster said:
It is the same price as last year based purely on the name, 6900 to 7900 etc. The probem I have is that previously the 6900 series was competing with the 3090. Now AMD as saying the 7900XTX is competing with the 4080 16GB. Their previous 3080 competitor had a RRP of $649.99 not $999.99
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Absolutely this. I have said many times that AMD only look good in comparison to Nvidia. Yes they are shafting us less han Nvidia in pure price/perf but we are getting less for more cost. Their £1k SKU cards were competing against the top Nvidia SKUs last gen and could arguably be justified (still overpriced IMHO). This gen they are keeping the same prices but competing at a lower tier. The fact they are giving better price/perf means they are the lesser of two evils.

So if I were in the market for a decent upgrade over my 3080, AMD are giving me a better option on price/perf. Yet still overpriced and not a compelling enough reason to go with AMD.

That is not me saying AMD are great, just better in a not feeling as dirty kind of way.
 
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Alt0153 said:
ive seen several posts at least on these forums suporting amd for its 1k pricing despite it being a massive price hike just because it wasnt as bad as nvidias price rape, and no i wont go search pages and pages for the comments
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I have seen some defend it in a "not as bad as Nvidia" way, but not certainly not support it in a "well done AMD" way.
 
humbug said:
So far as we know the 7900XTX sits in the same spot as the 6900XT did vs the 3090, for the same price.

The 7900XT is the odd one, just don't buy it.
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I won't be buying anything from either of them until they get back to reality. I prefer AMD but I could see nothing as good "value" as a 3060Ti FE so I bought one. So while I do have preferences, my wallet decides on what I buy. I had a 1070 previously when the situation was similar, same for two 2500K systems when it was by far the best buy.
 
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My assumptions on the rest of the pricing stack.

7800XT: $750
7800: $680
7700XT: $580
7700: $480
7600XT: $400
7600: $330
7500XT: $250
7500: $190

Troezar said:
I won't be buying anything from either of them until they get back to reality. I prefer AMD but I could see nothing as good "value" as a 3060Ti FE so I bought. So while I do have preferences, my wallet decides on what I buy. I had a 1070 previously when the situation was similar, same for two 2500K systems when it was buy far the best buy.
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My last few GPU's

GTX 970. Good GPU and great value
GTX 1070. also a great GPU, i liked it a lot, quite a hike in price from the 970 tho, from a value perspective it was still quite good, it was very much stronger than the 970 and had 8GB of VRam.
RTX 2070 Super, another chunky hike in price but again also a solid chunk higher performance, still ok from a value perspective, as for RT its one up from useless on this card.
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RTX 3070, didn't buy it. Same price as the 2070 Super but the raster performance is also not a great deal better, its minimal from what you would expect, around 25% gen to gen, this is when Nvidia started pushing RT as the thing you're supposed to be paying for, not interested, its far too early for RT to replace raster performance.
 
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eeii said:
Anyway back on target. Sapphire have given us a tease of their new card on videocardz and the pound is up again today.
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I like sapphire my RX480 was a Sapphire felt like a premium card despite it being a budget. If I end up getting the 7900xtx Sapphire would be my go to brand, I won't pay more for it though than other companies no time for the brand loyalty crap.
 
ICDP said:
Absolutely this. I have said many times that AMD only look good in comparison to Nvidia. Yes they are shafting us less han Nvidia in pure price/perf but we are getting less for more cost. Their £1k SKU cards were competing against the top Nvidia SKUs last gen and could arguably be justified (still overpriced IMHO). This gen they are keeping the same prices but competing at a lower tier. The fact they are giving better price/perf means they are the lesser of two evils.

So if I were in the market for a decent upgrade over my 3080, AMD are giving me a better option on price/perf. Yet still overpriced and not a compelling enough reason to go with AMD.

That is not me saying AMD are great, just better in a not feeling as dirty kind of way.
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A lot of this is also perspective too.

I'm still running on a 1080ti so from my perspective I saw top tier Nvidia cards from the 2, 3 and 4 series being confortably over 1k.

Even the 1080ti I was over 1100 when I bought it (I got it for just under 800 on a OCUK forum member deal)

So for me while I can't say I'm happy top tier GPUs are over 1k Ultimately they have been for 3- 4 generations now.

The argument about the 7900xtx not being a top tier is irrelevant, the 7950 will be the top but this is no different from Nvidia with their TI series.

As someone who has skipped 2 generations who paid 800 for there to be only a 300-400 increase yes it's price creap but it's not all that bad.

I'm potentially paying around 300 more than what I paid for my 1080ti but will be getting well over 4x the performance so it's not a bad value.

Sure if you upgrade yearly then yes the current gen is poor value even more so if you bough the 3000 series which were extortion during the peak scalping period.

I've never believed in upgrading each generation and because I haven't these cards seem like reasonable value to me.

While it may only be 50% perf increase for some for me it will be well over 200% if not more.

For me that is worth the money.

Now if e-tailers do stupid markups and the price doesn't translate well then yeh I'm probably gonna wait a bit but as it stands if I can get a card for around 1000-1100 I consider that a reasonable price for the performance uplift on the 800 I spent on a 1080ti.

If I can flog the 1080ti for 100-200 that would be a bonus too.
 
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I usedto upgrade every generation, i didn't with the 3070, its just not worth it.

Going forward i don't think be doing that anymore, the incentive is gone and it looks like i'll be going back to AMD for the first time in about 8 years.
 
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I know it sounds bad but hear me out.. if you really want a bargain and don't wanna pay these prices or face the fact that you will probably get stiffed by both teams, wait until these cards go EOL and upgrade then. I think a lot of people do this and stay 1 generation behind and upgrade on the cheap. Like the few who have managed to grab 3090's at sub 800.

I think going forward this maybe the only way, you would avoid a lot of things including scalpers and scalping retailers. Not to mention if the card fails during its warranty period you would also get a free upgrade to whatever equivalent of the current generation is which would be a win!
 
Jay85 said:
I know it sounds bad but hear me out.. if you really want a bargain and don't wanna pay these prices or face the fact that you will probably get stiffed by both teams, wait until these cards go EOL and upgrade then. I think a lot of people do this and stay 1 generation behind and upgrade on the cheap. Like the few who have managed to grab 3090's at sub 800.

I think going forward this maybe the only way, you would avoid a lot of things including scalpers and scalping retailers. Not to mention if the card fails during its warranty period you would also get a free upgrade to whatever equivalent of the current generation is which would be a win!
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I can't argue with that, its really not a bad idea.
 
Jay85 said:
I know it sounds bad but hear me out.. if you really want a bargain and don't wanna pay these prices or face the fact that you will probably get stiffed by both teams, wait until these cards go EOL and upgrade then. I think a lot of people do this and stay 1 generation behind and upgrade on the cheap. Like the few who have managed to grab 3090's at sub 800.

I think going forward this maybe the only way, you would avoid a lot of things including scalpers and scalping retailers. Not to mention if the card fails during its warranty period you would also get a free upgrade to whatever equivalent of the current generation is which would be a win!
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I managed to get a 3080FE at MSRP a few months after they were released. I refused to pay massively scalped prices but was OK with the deals OCUK did on here for forum members with a 6700XT at £70 over MSRP (thanks OCUK).

So I don't mind paying a bit over the odds but these new pre-scalped prices leave me at the prospect of a £700 GPU that gives barely 20% perf increase on my 3080FE.

So the smart plan would be to wait until the 7900 XTX is EOL in a few years. I will need to see how the 3080 holds up at 4K with newer games and see what my options are.
 
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