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AMD RX 3000 series

Calo said:
This is all very fascinating. But fact is, for 4k gaming, (which is the future!) a 2080TI is your only option. Mainstream will always be mainstream with some choice and a bit of wiggle room for prices, what we really need is a top end competitor and its not going to be AMD next year judging by this 'leak' and recent comments from their CEO - that is probably the most accurate prediction anyone can make right now.
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And yet here I am gaming at 4K with a "mere" RX 480. Just because it's 4K doesn't mean we also have to pump every slider and MSAA to 8x. ;)

Plenty of room for all sorts of cards to play at 4K. Let's not forget that most people aren't spending their hundreds/thousands of hours of gaming playing SotR/Crysis 11 on, but rather games like DotA 2, Path of Exile, Artifact, etc. which aren't as demanding.
 
Nasher said:
I took a job at their place in Luton back in about 2005. It was pretty bad, so bad I just didn't bother going back the 2nd week and took another job.

The way they were treating the workers was pretty shocking and definitely not legal. I suspect quite a few of their workers were not legal either!

Maybe it's improved now, but I doubt it. Their CEO is currently the richest man in the world which says it all really. He could easily afford to pay ALL his staff a very good wage, but I guess over 100 billion for himself somehow isn't enough.
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It hasn't improved ,my son worked with them couple years back and it was dreadful .Makes me laugh everytime I hear their advert 'come and work for us in a fun and dynamic environment' ...fun my back side :D
 
RX 3060 Navi 12 (RX580 performance)
75watt
$129

RX 3070 Navi 12 (Vega 56 performance)
120watt
$199

RX 3080 Navi 10 (Vega 64 + 15% performance)
150watt
$249

I'm not sure the forum could cope with this.
 
As someone else said the reality of these cards is tied to the reality of the console market.

If these cards are 1080/Ti level for £500+, then PS5 has to be a £500-£600 console - a bit rich.

If the PS5 is £300-£400 then the PS5 GPU would need to be ~1070+ level, which isn't much better than X1X.

Otherwise the £500 GPU is dwarfed in terms of perf/£ by the console, and the PC market shrinks as people wonder why they should pay £100s more for next-gen console performance.
 
If the AdoredTV video I posted in the other thread is remotely accurate (in his predictions of AMDs plan) - those prices could well be realistic and still be leaving AMD in a profitable position. He posits that AMDs plan is efficiency at the fab level, so they can use virtually everything that comes out for some purpose - that lack of waste could allow for a large economy of scale, allowing AMD to price low and control the market from an immense price-performance aspect (they've always been a little ahead on this, but they could corner the market if they're OBLITERATING nvidia pricing instead of just being "better value"). That said, I'll believe it when I see it.
 
FoxEye said:
As someone else said the reality of these cards is tied to the reality of the console market.

If these cards are 1080/Ti level for £500+, then PS5 has to be a £500-£600 console - a bit rich.

If the PS5 is £300-£400 then the PS5 GPU would need to be ~1070+ level, which isn't much better than X1X.

Otherwise the £500 GPU is dwarfed in terms of perf/£ by the console, and the PC market shrinks as people wonder why they should pay £100s more for next-gen console performance.
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How are you determining what the costs of the consoles & their proportionality to GPUs is? I wouldn't be surprised to see PS5/X Scarlett cost £500, and the market has certainly signalled it can bear higher costs for electronics in general, as we can see from cost increases across the board.

PC has always been higher cost up-front, and people are willing to pay that because there's still tons of benefits to it compared to a console. Regardless, it's obvious cost parity would never be possible for PC compared to consoles simply because of the economics - one scales to 10/100s of millions of units in buy orders, the other is sold directly to consumers. The price the latter group would pay would always be higher because they don't buy together and therefore have to bear higher costs individually.
 
I've heard rumours that the PS5 is going to come with a $499 price tag - and since we tend to get price parity, £499 makes sense.
 
The pricing, while slightly too low isn't ridiculous imho. From what Adored said, they get great yields, have large volume due to consoles and realistically, I'd expect high end 2016 performance to be available at mid range prices in 2019.

Also, if these prices are in the right ballpark, it's a real shame that crossfire is basically dead. Two Navi 10 gpus for ~£700? Yes please.
 
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What is this fairy cookoo land thread, next thing, wow can't wait for the RX4000 series, RTX 2080Ti performance for only £100.
 
jigger said:
RX 3060 Navi 12 (RX580 performance)
75watt
$129

RX 3070 Navi 12 (Vega 56 performance)
120watt
$199

RX 3080 Navi 10 (Vega 64 + 15% performance)
150watt
$249

I'm not sure the forum could cope with this.
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Even if the prices aren't quite that good, NV is going to get a the same spanking Intel have had.

The 3080 looks very tasty.

:)
 
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