Drivers will improve. 6000 series performance improved considerably.
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AMD RX 7900 XT/XTX Upgrade discussion
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Have we got any actual evidence to show that? Not doubting it, just I haven't seen anything to show this being the case over the past 9 months or even from launch either.
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Sounds a little like you are doubting it.
Apologies if I don't take random one liner comments with no evidence to back up said posts as gospel
Hence asking where we are coming to these "RDNA 2 has improved massively since launch" comments.
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Yes - as @LtMatt says here: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/the-amd-driver-thread.18643923/post-35851544 there was a big jump in DX11 and OGL performance earlier this year, which I noticed on some the games I play.
The optimisations also broke a bunch of games that were then progressively sorted out in subsequent releases.
So it does happen, but I wouldn't use it as a significant factor for chosing a card. I would use it in the same way as overclock results from a review - interesting but I may not get the same in the future.
As above its in the 6900xt owners thread, massive improvement earlier this year. It was well publicised too and above.
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Apologies if I don't take random one liner comments with no evidence to back up said posts as gospel
Which is all reasonable.
Except you said 'not doubting it', hence I said what I said
.followed by the clearance section filling up with returned 7900 cards 2 weeks later.
Gibbo's take on coil whine post #24 below link.
***** AMD RX 7900 SERIES AVAILABLE & IN STOCK TODAY FROM 2PM ****(BACK ORDER UPDATES WITHIN THIS THREAD)*
Well I'll try place an order as soon as I can and hope it gets delivered for tomorrow.. last few orders were late/off schedule :( I'm about to pull the trigger on the XTX when the buttons are up, I'm just scared the reference board will have coil whine and waiting on the AIB dudes for way more...
forums.overclockers.co.uk
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Isn't that more fixing an underlying problem they had with dx 11 though? Same way nvidia recently fixed their dx 12 issues? Either way, I'm not doubting that RDNA 3 will see big gains with updates, only thing is I hope it is a couple of months as opposed to years (like with dx 11 and ogl and nvidias dx 12) to get sorted.
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Best I could find from a year ago. But obviously, that trend would still continue.
Apologies if I don't take random one liner comments with no evidence to back up said posts as gospel
How the AMD RX 6800 XT runs 9% faster than it did at launch
An analysis of performance between 2020 and 2021 shows big improvements on AMD cards, with some cards performing as much as 9% better than at launch.
www.digitaltrends.com
And some info here focusing on a specific driver, back in July for the 22.7.1 release.
AMD Adrenalin 22.7.1 Driver Performance Test: Big Gains in DX11 & OpenGL
AMD's reworked both its DirectX 11 and OpenGL drivers recently. Do they make a difference? Let's look...
So there is some info out there. I haven't dug any deeper.
I do wonder how many people have checked the PSU requirements or not.
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You mean they were just fixing a performance regression introduced with a prior release? No idea. Not something I noticed during my ownership of the 6900 and I had a 1080 before that; so I guess you're referring to something earlier in the 6000 series life? But the increase in performance definately happened.
But like I said, past performance is no guarantee of future returns. Or something like that.
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That's another consideration, I love my current Nitro+ so am interested to see how this one stacks up. I doubt it will be as light as the 6800 XT version, that's under 1.5kg but cooling capacity is remarkable, easily the quietest card I've owned.
I was psychologically preparing myself for £900 to vanish from my account yesterday planning to get at 7900XT. But those idle time power consumptions have made me hold off. I mean, it has to be a driver bug right? But I don't want to buy until I know there's a fix.
Other thing is what I'd heard people say that the pricing of the XT didn't make sense compared to the performance gap with the XTX but I'd just taken an attitude of "it's good enough for me, I'm not going to pay more just because". But now I've seen just how large that gap is - oh my goodness!
Other thing is what I'd heard people say that the pricing of the XT didn't make sense compared to the performance gap with the XTX but I'd just taken an attitude of "it's good enough for me, I'm not going to pay more just because". But now I've seen just how large that gap is - oh my goodness!
Best I could find from a year ago. But obviously, that trend would still continue.
How the AMD RX 6800 XT runs 9% faster than it did at launch
An analysis of performance between 2020 and 2021 shows big improvements on AMD cards, with some cards performing as much as 9% better than at launch.
And some info here focusing on a specific driver, back in July for the 22.7.1 release.
AMD Adrenalin 22.7.1 Driver Performance Test: Big Gains in DX11 & OpenGL
AMD's reworked both its DirectX 11 and OpenGL drivers recently. Do they make a difference? Let's look...hothardware.com
So there is some info out there. I haven't dug any deeper.
Ok so people are referring mainly to the dx 11 and opengl issues amd had and not specifically a rdna 2 improvement/flaw?
AMD always had worse performance in dx 11, it's why they invested so much more time into low level apis like mantle, which then went on to become vulkan and dx 12 where as nvidia focussed a lot more on dx 11 to the point they didn't put much focus on dx 12 and even removed the hardware scheduler that harmed their dx 12 performance, which was largely why amd did better in dx 12 until nvidia sorted out their dx 12/drivers recently.
I suspect RDNA 3 driver improvements will be more akin to like what we see with GCN hardware 2x0 series and the 5700xt i.e. improvements specific to the architecture rather than a specific age old driver issue, which affected all/most of their products.
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I have similar thinking but I bought the Sapphire 7900 XTX, waited almost 10 min at the checkout.So originally my plan A was to get the 7900XTX on launch day.
After learning about the 7900XTX power issues, especially whilst idle, it's made me seriously reconsider going ahead with the purchase @ 1400hrs today.
Thankfully.. due to these forums I was able to purchase a plan B, 6900XT, during Black Friday.
I was going to gift that to my brother if things went well with today's launch so I could go with my original Plan A. 7900XTX and complete my build.
I know nobody has a crystal ball but what would you suggest now?
Option 1: Purchase the 7900XTX anyway and hope for AMD to fix the issues via software updates? (That's if they can fix the idle power issues.)
Option 2: Use the 6900XT and stop obsessing over GPU'S.
Option 3: Consider purchasing the 4080?
Option 4: **** it! Go all in and get the 4090?
Thank you!
I'm interested to see what you guys think?
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@Gibbo can you share if they sold out faster than the 4080 launch for you guys?