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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail - Go Go Go xD

No, it includes everything to my country including shipping and VAT.

EDIT - Screw it I ordered one.


A 5800x3D will cost 3-4x less than a full platform upgrade for likely 80-90%% of the performance of a 7800x3D at 4k and above resolutions. Plus no having to reinstall Windows and all your apps and games. I would rather save my upgrade energy for Zen5 which should be a true generational leap over the 5800x3D.
Fair enough if you don't have import duties etc. Good price you got it for. I did have a look online but didn't see it at that price.
 
Swapped my 5900X for the 5800X3D this eve. Amazing performance uplift and increase in smoothness in MS Flight Simulator. So happy!

Totally worth it for what will effectively be a £100 upgrade once I’ve sold my old CPU.

Now I’m totally happy to stay on this platform until 2024 and will then see what Zen 5 has to offer.
 
Swapped my 5900X for the 5800X3D this eve. Amazing performance uplift and increase in smoothness in MS Flight Simulator. So happy!

Totally worth it for what will effectively be a £100 upgrade once I’ve sold my old CPU.

Now I’m totally happy to stay on this platform until 2024 and will then see what Zen 5 has to offer.
What settings do you run Flight sim 2020 on? I thought I would give it a go even though flight sims are not really my thing.
When terrain is loading I sometimes get hitches/stutters but thinking it might be something else. In data settings, do you have rolling cache on/off? I have mine to on and a 32gb limit on my Samsung 980 Pro NVMe drive
Glaobal rendering settings, im in Ultra in 3440 x 1440
 
What settings do you run Flight sim 2020 on? I thought I would give it a go even though flight sims are not really my thing.
When terrain is loading I sometimes get hitches/stutters but thinking it might be something else. In data settings, do you have rolling cache on/off? I have mine to on and a 32gb limit on my Samsung 980 Pro NVMe drive
Glaobal rendering settings, im in Ultra in 3440 x 1440

I am running FS2020 in ultra, DX12, DLSS-Quality. I am running the same 34in ultrawide res as you and my GPU is a 3080-FE.
 
@Guest2 - You're running an MSI 570x Unify right? What bios are you using to get Kombo strike? is it a beta or just the latest official/Agesa 1.07?

Thanks mate. D
Yep, thats right. Latest Agesa 1.07

I am running FS2020 in ultra, DX12, DLSS-Quality. I am running the same 34in ultrawide res as you and my GPU is a 3080-FE.

Thanks
Interestingly I found turning off Kombo strike 3 causes a lot less hitching. Maybe its best just leaving PBO2 / Kombo Strike disabled and leave the chip to do its own thing for gaming. I generally found this with my 5800X too - best leaving it alone with default PBO settings instead of messing around undervolting or using curve optimizer. Yes, you could get temps lower and/or higher benchmark scores but when it came to gaming you might get issues or instability
 
Yep, thats right. Latest Agesa 1.07



Thanks
Interestingly I found turning off Kombo strike 3 causes a lot less hitching. Maybe its best just leaving PBO2 / Kombo Strike disabled and leave the chip to do its own thing for gaming. I generally found this with my 5800X too - best leaving it alone with default PBO settings instead of messing around undervolting or using curve optimizer. Yes, you could get temps lower and/or higher benchmark scores but when it came to gaming you might get issues or instability


Interesting - no PBO2 on mine but KOMBO strike 3 is on. Will promptly turn this off. Can this CPU really be that good, it's just plug and play with no fettling?
 
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Yep, thats right. Latest Agesa 1.07



Thanks
Interestingly I found turning off Kombo strike 3 causes a lot less hitching. Maybe its best just leaving PBO2 / Kombo Strike disabled and leave the chip to do its own thing for gaming. I generally found this with my 5800X too - best leaving it alone with default PBO settings instead of messing around undervolting or using curve optimizer. Yes, you could get temps lower and/or higher benchmark scores but when it came to gaming you might get issues or instability

i thought i noticed a bit of hitching...maybe it's just because it's so smooth the rest of the time, that something i didn't notice on my 5800x is now noticeable.
 
Interesting - no PBO2 on mine but KOMBO strike 3 is on. Will promptly turn this off. Can this CPU really be that good, it's just plug and play with no fettling?
I think so. They (AMD/Intel/Nvidia/ATA) dont have (rather good) engineers coming up with these chips that cost billions to make in R&D, only for us to enable 1 setting or nob around with a curve optimzer to make it work better.

I've gone full circle from overclocking my GPU, RAM (inc all timings, sub timings & voltages) and CPU with curve optimizer and voltages on 5800X to slowly back to stock - XMP RAM settings, no CPU oc, stock voltages, stock GPU.

Overclocking is all good for benchmarking and record breaking but if you want to just use a stable PC nowadays for gaming or productivity I feel its best left as is.

Stability testing is all well and good but once you combine all parts of the system, things start to show flaws. E.g. Infinity fabric on my 5800X3D was fine in CPU stability tests but as soon as I threw GPU/PCIE into the mix things started to show errors. Likewise with GPU testing, all great but throw in some CPU and RAM and things will probably fail.
Realbench tries to combine things and tried that too and had an older system stable for 24 hours of Real bench. Played Planet coaster on a big map (Alton towers map) and after 10 minutes my machine crashed. Removed the CPU OC and it was fine!

Overclocking is a hobby but certainly for gaming in 2022 it's easier to leave everything as it was meant to be. Temps might be 5c hotter in gaming and 5fps lower, but thats the 'safety net' I suppose
 
Could be. Are you running undervolt on your 5800X3D? Were you on your 5800X?

No and no. i've not checked temps on my 5800x3d yet. running ram at 3733 14, 8, 15, 13. not changed any subtimings yet, i found if i upped the voltage too much or went for too tight timings i got instability (esp in the hot weather) and i need my PC for work too.

I am toying with the idea of liquid metal
 
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No and no. i've not checked temps on my 5800x3d yet. running ram at 3733 14, 8, 15, 13. not changed any subtimings yet, i found if i upped the voltage too much or went for too tight timings i got instability (esp in the hot weather) and i need my PC for work too.

I am toying with the idea of liquid metal
I had my 5800X at 3800 C14 / 1900FLCK but the 5800X3D doesnt like 1900 FCLK so just left it at XMP (3600C16/1800FCLK)

Let me know how you get on. I would probably end up shorting my motherboard and cpu
 
I had my 5800X at 3800 C14 / 1900FLCK but the 5800X3D doesnt like 1900 FCLK so just left it at XMP (3600C16/1800FCLK)

Let me know how you get on. I would probably end up shorting my motherboard and cpu

Yeah that's what i'm worried about. i killed my x79 by scratching the RAM lines?? on the PCB...i'd just but a new Xeon in it too with samsung greens - i was completed gutted.
 
Yeah that's what i'm worried about. i killed my x79 by scratching the RAM lines?? on the PCB...i'd just but a new Xeon in it too with samsung greens - i was completed gutted.
Yeh, not worth it if its a few c difference to thermal paste. I was wary enough placing the 5800X3D into the motherboard and not dropping it on the pins!

I recently sold my 5800X (to someone on here) and when I took it out and was cleaning it, handled it like it was a Fabergé egg! :D
 
I think so. They (AMD/Intel/Nvidia/ATA) dont have (rather good) engineers coming up with these chips that cost billions to make in R&D, only for us to enable 1 setting or nob around with a curve optimzer to make it work better.

I've gone full circle from overclocking my GPU, RAM (inc all timings, sub timings & voltages) and CPU with curve optimizer and voltages on 5800X to slowly back to stock - XMP RAM settings, no CPU oc, stock voltages, stock GPU.

Overclocking is all good for benchmarking and record breaking but if you want to just use a stable PC nowadays for gaming or productivity I feel its best left as is.

Stability testing is all well and good but once you combine all parts of the system, things start to show flaws. E.g. Infinity fabric on my 5800X3D was fine in CPU stability tests but as soon as I threw GPU/PCIE into the mix things started to show errors. Likewise with GPU testing, all great but throw in some CPU and RAM and things will probably fail.
Realbench tries to combine things and tried that too and had an older system stable for 24 hours of Real bench. Played Planet coaster on a big map (Alton towers map) and after 10 minutes my machine crashed. Removed the CPU OC and it was fine!

Overclocking is a hobby but certainly for gaming in 2022 it's easier to leave everything as it was meant to be. Temps might be 5c hotter in gaming and 5fps lower, but thats the 'safety net' I suppose


I'm the same - all stock settings now. CBA to overclock as whilst I can measure the FPS difference - wont 'feel' the difference on todays GPU's not at 4k as the FPS difference will be in single fps. Stock CPU, GPU and RAM at XMP. Only have 3600mhz ram anyway so dont need the divider for anything more than 1800mhz fabric clock. Like you say, can spend hrs fettling just to see what's stable for it to crash in a gaming situation - I'm sure some like to test their silicon lottery and some are into benching - I just find it boring. The days when you could get some decent extra performance from a lower teir chip are gone. GPU's boost way past their advertised boost clock anyway and CPU's in gaming terms at high resolution wont make any difference in the real world anyway. I am a bit 'easy life' though.
 
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I'm the same - all stock settings now. CBA to overclock as whilst I can measure the FPS difference - wont 'feel' the difference on todays GPU's not at 4k as the FPS difference will be in single fps. Stock CPU, GPU and RAM at XMP. Only have 3600mhz ram anyway so dont need the divider for anything more than 1800mhz fabric clock. Like you say, can spend hrs fettling just to see what's stable for it to crash in a gaming situation - I'm sure some like to test their silicon lottery and some are into benching - I just find it boring. The days when you could get some decent extra performance from a lower teir chip are gone. GPU's boost way past their advertised boost clock anyway and CPU's in gaming terms at high resolution wont make any difference in the real world anyway. I am a bit 'easy life' though.

Nowadays for both AMD and Intel there is so little left in the tank, the extra power and temps arent worth it., Same with gfx cards now.

There is only memory where, if you have picked the right memory with the right ICs, then good gains can be made by overclocking for free.

Its all a bit boring nowadays. I started off with an Athlon xp cpu which i modded with a graphite pencil to run at 40% higher speed which is when I joined these forums. There was up to 50% to be gained for free each generation.

Nowadays you can play around for ages just to gain less than 5% in benchmarks that you cant even notice in real life.
 
Oof, new rumournews on the new Zen 3D CPU's... https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryz...e-16-12-and-8-core-models-coming-january-2023

Contrary to earlier reports, AMD is indeed developing Ryzen 7000X3D processors with more than 8-cores. It is said that AMD Ryzen CPUs equipped with 3D V-Cache will come in 8-core, 12-core and 16-core variants. What is reported is that those processors would retain similar clock speeds to existing parts without 3D V-Cache. This would imply clocks reaching possibly as high as 5.7 GHz.

At least three sources have now came forward to claim that AMD will launch Ryzen 9 7950X3D with 16 cores, Ryzen 9 7900X3D with 12 cores and Ryzen 7 SKU with 8-cores. The third part could be either 7700X3D or 7800X3D. There is reportedly no 6-core part with 3D V-Cache.
If this is true then the performance difference over the 5800x3D could be significant, as +15% IPC and +25% clocks could equal 30%+ real-world performance gains.
 
I don't think the performance delta will be as great as with the 5800x3d. They will probably slightly gimp the 7xxx3d in some way otherwise they won't be able to sell their non x3d chips like we're seeing with the 5000 series
 
I don't think the performance delta will be as great as with the 5800x3d. They will probably slightly gimp the 7xxx3d in some way otherwise they won't be able to sell their non x3d chips like we're seeing with the 5000 series
Don't know about you rumple, but I just hope they are faster than the Ryzen 3600.
 
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