AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail - Go Go Go xD

[uscool]

So had few days with the 5800x3d , using on NZXT z73 360 AIO with Arctic MX 6 thermal paste with MSI x570 Unify motherboard , this thing does heat up at stock with cinebench r23 run was reaching 85c multi core run which seems high when being on 360 AIO maybe its normal ? got me questioning myself if I didnt apply paste properly I did the spread method seemed perfect to me (although my rad fan curve is very conservative at 850 rpm during this) So in bios went into Kombo strike and changed to level 3 and made nice difference

now Cinebench multi core just about hits 80c and scoring higher, single core run hits 51c max , this is the worst case as in gaming its not gonna get the same stress played few games past few days not had any issues and temps struggle to get much above 60c depending on game and thats with AIO fans at 850-900rpm
another thing I noticed in windows 11 power mode I changed from balanced to best power efficiency and it hasnt effected my scores , score below are using best power efficency while temps being much better when in idle and when using it generally for web browsing and watching streams 33-37c

I replaced this with the 5900x which was wasted on me as I have no need for productivity and purely gaming got the 5800x3d on a deal and sale of the 5900x should take most of it , I knew I would struggle to notice difference in games when I play at 1440p with an 3080 unless looking at the fps counter/ mins ideally need 4080/7900xtx but very happy with the performance of the 3080 and not willing to give in to what they want for the new cards , also big difference is how much less power draw the 5800x3d uses during gaming compared to the 5900x

This should keep me going for while maybe untill AM5 prices drop and I get tempted I really would need GPU upgrade to make use of it anyway

 

[SaBBz]

Have you tried PBO tuner with -30 offset? On Cinebench R23 my CPU gets to a max of 63c under my Dark Rock Pro 4, so your temps seem a little high. Still, nothing to worry about if it’s boosting to 4450 constantly in the multi core run.

 

[uscool]

Have you tried PBO tuner with -30 offset? On Cinebench R23 my CPU gets to a max of 63c under my Dark Rock Pro 4, so your temps seem a little high. Still, nothing to worry about if it’s boosting to 4450 constantly in the multi core run.

No I thought that what Kombo strike did in bios for MSI boards , level 3 being -30 ?

edit - Just checked PBO2 Tuner and already on -30 so was right , is that temp max on cinebench r23 multi core run ?

 

[stooeh]

No I thought that what Kombo strike did in bios for MSI boards , level 3 being -30 ?

That's right if you set it to level 3 then load up the PBO2 tuner app it will be at -30 already.

I currently have on the custom loop with 2x360 rads to itself and it still hits 69C on a CB23 run pulling ~106W.
It pulls about 30W less than my 5800X did playing CP2077 but that chip had almost no tolerance to undervolt/curve

 

[uscool]

That's right if you set it to level 3 then load up the PBO2 tuner app it will be at -30 already.

I currently have on the custom loop with 2x360 rads to itself and it still hits 69C on a CB23 run pulling ~106W.
It pulls about 30W less than my 5800X did playing CP2077 but that chip had almost no tolerance to undervolt/curve

hmm would seem about right if you getting 69c with 2x360 rad might try re applying paste later

 

[Bencher]

So had few days with the 5800x3d , using on NZXT z73 360 AIO with Arctic MX 6 thermal paste with MSI x570 Unify motherboard , this thing does heat up at stock with cinebench r23 run was reaching 85c multi core run which seems high when being on 360 AIO maybe its normal ? got me questioning myself if I didnt apply paste properly I did the spread method seemed perfect to me (although my rad fan curve is very conservative at 850 rpm during this) So in bios went into Kombo strike and changed to level 3 and made nice difference

now Cinebench multi core just about hits 80c and scoring higher, single core run hits 51c max , this is the worst case as in gaming its not gonna get the same stress played few games past few days not had any issues and temps struggle to get much above 60c depending on game and thats with AIO fans at 850-900rpm
another thing I noticed in windows 11 power mode I changed from balanced to best power efficiency and it hasnt effected my scores , score below are using best power efficency while temps being much better when in idle and when using it generally for web browsing and watching streams 33-37c

I replaced this with the 5900x which was wasted on me as I have no need for productivity and purely gaming got the 5800x3d on a deal and sale of the 5900x should take most of it , I knew I would struggle to notice difference in games when I play at 1440p with an 3080 unless looking at the fps counter/ mins ideally need 4080/7900xtx but very happy with the performance of the 3080 and not willing to give in to what they want for the new cards , also big difference is how much less power draw the 5800x3d uses during gaming compared to the 5900x

This should keep me going for while maybe untill AM5 prices drop and I get tempted I really would need GPU upgrade to make use of it anyway

The power saving option in Windows is generally not worth it. It saves just a few watts but at least for me desktop experience is laggier. Things like opening a browser seem to take just a tiny bit more time than the balanced option.

Try them for yourself, it might just be an intel thing, but for me its very noticeable

 

[SaBBz]

No I thought that what Kombo strike did in bios for MSI boards , level 3 being -30 ?

edit - Just checked PBO2 Tuner and already on -30 so was right , is that temp max on cinebench r23 multi core run ?

Apologies, the 63 degrees was on a single render run. I’ve just run the 10 min bench and it’s maxed at 68.9c, so I think your temps are still a bit high. I have a case with very decent airflow though.

 

[uscool]

The power saving option in Windows is generally not worth it. It saves just a few watts but at least for me desktop experience is laggier. Things like opening a browser seem to take just a tiny bit more time than the balanced option.

Try them for yourself, it might just be an intel thing, but for me its very noticeable

not seeing any difference between them , transferring files, web browsing , discord just doing the general stuff , does really make difference to the temps when doing the general stuff / idle

 

[uscool]

Apologies, the 63 degrees was on a single render run. I’ve just run the 10 min bench and it’s maxed at 68.9c, so I think your temps are still a bit high. I have a case with very decent airflow though.

interesting my single render run is 51c , not sure whats going on but my 3x rad fans are at 850rpm and another 6 120mm case fans at 800 rpm, maybe a silicon lottery thing ? will re apply paste just to rule out

 

[SaBBz]

interesting my single render run is 51c , not sure whats going on but my 3x rad fans are at 850rpm and another 6 120mm case fans at 800 rpm, maybe a silicon lottery thing ? will re apply paste just to rule out

I meant that I just ran the multi core test once rather than on a loop which was the 63c My case is a fractal Meshify C with 4 x 140mm fans (2 intakes at the front and 2 exhausts at the top) plus 1 x 120mm rear exhaust. I’ve also removed the front filter as it was very restrictive.

 

[uscool]

I meant that I just ran the multi core test once rather than on a loop which was the 63c My case is a fractal Meshify C with 4 x 140mm fans (2 intakes at the front and 2 exhausts at the top) plus 1 x 120mm rear exhaust. I’ve also removed the front filter as it was very restrictive.

what motherboard ? looking at the MSI forum seems its the bios playing up with the 5800x3d its the MSI x570 unify so not cooler issue wasted paste re applying they even showed in house tests and the temps match up

I flashed one version back bios but it loses the kombo strike option which is the PBO so had to do it in windows , the temps on this bios slightly better at 75c I see package cpu at 106w so uses slightly less still getting same cb23 scores

gaming seems to be inline from seeing what others are getting with the same games averaging 55c-65c gonna stick back latest bios so just gonna stick back the latest bios so can use kombo strike

 

[SaBBz]

My motherboard is an MSI Mortar Max B450 with the 2nd latest bios. Looking at HWInfo yesterday it was pulling 101W in the multi core bench on Cinebench, with all the cores at 4450mhz constantly and my score was just over 15k.

 

[uscool]

My motherboard is an MSI Mortar Max with the 2nd latest bios. Looking at HWInfo yesterday it was pulling 101W in the multi core bench on Cinebench, with all the cores at 4450mhz constantly and my score was just over 15k.

latest bios on x570 unify pulling 113-115w, older bios 106w both scoring the same

 

[B@Th*nG]

latest bios on x570 unify pulling 113-115w, older bios 106w both scoring the same

Do you have a link to one of the threads where they discuss this, please? Am looking at getting a 5800x3d and have an msi x570 gaming edge wifi

 

[uscool]

Do you have a link to one of the threads where they discuss this, please? Am looking at getting a 5800x3d and have an msi x570 gaming edge wifi

MSI's own testing with the 5800x3d they shared results and I get better results they used 360 aio , the older bios gave better temps when running cb23 from 80c to 75c over the latest but it doesnt have kombo strike option and prefer not to be using PBO in windows I flashed back the latest bios and set kombo strike to level 3 this really helps to boost performance and reduce temps, comparing to others with the same games temps are what you would expect averaging 50-65c depending on the game , seeing others results with cb23 multi not sure why mine seems higher maybe its MSI bios ? or the way cooler aligns with cpu ? gaming it matches up so its not a big deal

MSI Global English Forum

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forum-en.msi.com

 

[PieEater]

latest bios on x570 unify pulling 113-115w, older bios 106w both scoring the same

I would recommend trying a negative offset on the VCORE on the latest BIOS as it sounds like it is letting the CPU draw more power. I run a -0.05v offset as well as -30 PBO on my Asus board with no impact on benchmark scores (maybe slightly better) but significant decrease in temps, anything over -0.05 and the core clocks drop below 4450 but that may be different if your BIOS is overvolting at default.

 

[uscool]

I would recommend trying a negative offset on the VCORE on the latest BIOS as it sounds like it is letting the CPU draw more power. I run a -0.05v offset as well as -30 PBO on my Asus board with no impact on benchmark scores (maybe slightly better) but significant decrease in temps, anything over -0.05 and the core clocks drop below 4450 but that may be different if your BIOS is overvolting at default.

the offset seems broken on the bios if you read here, I noticed on the older bios the total cpu package power when running cb23 was 106w , the latest bios is 116w the bios on this board just sending more power to the cpu , I set the PPT to 105w and temps improved further but will test further and check scores

MSI Global English Forum

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forum-en.msi.com

 

[SpudMaster]

I see OcUK are taking the mick the with price of the 5800x3d now. Currently at £390 when it can be had from just over £330 from other retailers!

 

[PieEater]

I see OcUK are taking the mick the with price of the 5800x3d now. Currently at £390 when it can be had from just over £330 from other retailers!

I guess maybe they need a bit of extra income to ensure they can keep these forums up and running so that folks have the ability to publicly whinge about their pricing policies. Makes you wander why these other retailers don't go to the bother of paying for and staffing their own forums out of their own pocket for the benefit of the community.

 

[Richdog]

I guess maybe they need a bit of extra income to ensure they can keep these forums up and running so that folks have the ability to publicly whinge about their pricing policies. Makes you wander why these other retailers don't go to the bother of paying for and staffing their own forums out of their own pocket for the benefit of the community.

Holy moly that is some level of white knighting there.