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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

After seeing some of the YT videos, I decided to give overclocking things a try.

I've been useing the Ryzen Master software and Cinebench, and found I can get to
5.4GHz with 1.23 V
5.5GHz with 1.25 V
But if I then go into BIOS and add these settings there, then it won't boot.

MSI X670E Tomahawk
64GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo EXPO 48000C30 6000MHz

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
 
After seeing some of the YT videos, I decided to give overclocking things a try.

I've been useing the Ryzen Master software and Cinebench, and found I can get to
5.4GHz with 1.23 V
5.5GHz with 1.25 V
But if I then go into BIOS and add these settings there, then it won't boot.

MSI X670E Tomahawk
64GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo EXPO 48000C30 6000MHz

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
I had 5.45GHz working with the tomahawk x870 motherboard - 54.5 ratio and CPU loadline calibration control mode 8 set.
 
Currently just dropped a -30 to the Curve Optimizer, and the cores have gone up by 100-200Mhz (going from 5.05Ghz to 5.2Ghz), temps have gone down 10C (going from 80-85C odd down to 70-75C). Will likely attempt a tiny bit more later tomorrow or something (certainly during the day at least) but not really in any rush at the moment to get it done. As I'm still waiting on the Octo to get back into stock as OCUK and install that into the new rig so I can control the fans better.

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Core Voltage looks like it's sitting at 1.13v here. Not sure if looking at right thing in hwinfo64 (I had trouble identifying the same stuff for the 7950X two years ago until I finally got used to it about a year ago)
 
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GoRedWings provided some decent advice a page or two
Back for a simple PBO tune, try starting there.
I just followed what most people have been saying here. I don't have a clue about OC'ing an AMD chip.

@Littlenose
Try a more conservative start. Instead of just jumping at -30. Try -20 or -15 test for stability. Then readjust in small increments.

If you are happy with the small 200mhz boost there is no need for you to wap the scaler on X10. X1 should be enough.

It is only if you want to go higher than the 5.4ghz limit then you would need to adjust the scaler more.

While the 9800x3d is a fully unlocked chip which you can overclock like any other CPU it comes to luck of the draw. While -30 is attainable for most not all can do it. But to be honest you have an excellent gaming CPU regardless just don't overthink it. Long ago I realised I was never the type of person who gets good clocking chips or graphics cards. In fact anything if a chip in it. This applies to memory as well.

There is only one time I can remember in all the time I have been here that I ever got a good clocking product and that was because I bought it off @LtMatt
 
I just followed what most people have been saying here. I don't have a clue about OC'ing an AMD chip.

@Littlenose
Try a more conservative start. Instead of just jumping at -30. Try -20 or -15 test for stability. Then readjust in small increments.

If you are happy with the small 200mhz boost there is no need for you to wap the scaler on X10. X1 should be enough.

It is only if you want to go higher than the 5.4ghz limit then you would need to adjust the scaler more.

While the 9800x3d is a fully unlocked chip which you can overclock like any other CPU it comes to luck of the draw. While -30 is attainable for most not all can do it. But to be honest you have an excellent gaming CPU regardless just don't overthink it. Long ago I realised I was never the type of person who gets good clocking chips or graphics cards. In fact anything if a chip in it. This applies to memory as well.

There is only one time I can remember in all the time I have been here that I ever got a good clocking product and that was because I bought it off @LtMatt
Wise words mate
 
Slightly further tinkering, pushed the Curve Optimizer to -35, with the +200Mhz for 5.4Ghz (-40 can boot and do general use including CbR23, but fails with stress testing via Prime95 Small). Passed stability tests without issues. 80C long term temps at full load. Less with less stressful loads on the CPU. Don't think I'm going to do more here, as the cooling that this system uses has basically been set to run at really low noise speeds (none breaching 850 RPM). Might do more once the Octo comes back in stock and is here so I can control the sound levels whilst adjusting the fans on the fly whilst pushing the chip. But otherwise, I think that's all I can do realistically for now.
 
I know this is a 9800X3D thread but, pursuant to my previous gripe with HUB content, I see they've now done another pointless comparison of the 14900K and Ultra9 285K. We all know the 14900K is faster! They even say at the end that there are some improvements coming for the 285K which just renders this video even more irrelevant as it will probably all change soon.

If they're this desperate to put out content, how about doing a comparison of the 9800X3D against much older CPUs, like 4/5/6 generations old?
Many people I know only upgrade their machines every 4/5/6 years and want to know what kind of bump they can expect if they upgrade. Try finding any information on how much faster a 9800X3D would be than a 9700K or a 5600X for example, in real-world games with a decent GPU at a sensible res like 1440p.
That kind of info would be far more useful to the average person wanting to know where to put their money than endlessly rehashing what we already know.

</rant>
 
I know this is a 9800X3D thread but, pursuant to my previous gripe with HUB content, I see they've now done another pointless comparison of the 14900K and Ultra9 285K. We all know the 14900K is faster! They even say at the end that there are some improvements coming for the 285K which just renders this video even more irrelevant as it will probably all change soon.

If they're this desperate to put out content, how about doing a comparison of the 9800X3D against much older CPUs, like 4/5/6 generations old?
Many people I know only upgrade their machines every 4/5/6 years and want to know what kind of bump they can expect if they upgrade. Try finding any information on how much faster a 9800X3D would be than a 9700K or a 5600X for example, in real-world games with a decent GPU at a sensible res like 1440p.
That kind of info would be far more useful to the average person wanting to know where to put their money than endlessly rehashing what we already know.

</rant>
Couldn't agree more.

I am upgrading from the i7-7700k and while I am sure the performance increase will be noticeable, my head is spinning trying to make extrapolations to figure out if I have made the right choice going AMD.

It's been a long time since I upgraded and have a lot to catch up on.
 
Couldn't agree more.

I am upgrading from the i7-7700k and while I am sure the performance increase will be noticeable, my head is spinning trying to make extrapolations to figure out if I have made the right choice going AMD.

It's been a long time since I upgraded and have a lot to catch up on.

FWIW, a friend has just upgraded from a 9700K to a 9800X3D and is seeing very significant gains. That said he'd already upgraded his GPU to a 4080 SUPER not long ago so the CPU was a clear bottleneck. If you did the same kind of upgrade but with an older GPU you'd risk just moving the bottleneck until such time as the GPU was also upgraded.
 
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